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Controversy over an Elvis item which Roger gave the thumbs up to.

When I first joined this site I posted this piece to get opinions.  Everyone thought it was good including Roger.  I decided to post it on a facebook Elvis site for serious Elvis collectors.  It is mostly getting the thumbs down with people saying the market is flooded with them (alto I havent noticed that).  Anyway as the story goes an Elvis fan club president sent a gift to Elvis while in the Army return receipt so she could get his signature.  It is dated 1959 and I also have the envelope that was returned to her postmarked 1959.  I got it in a trade years ago.  Its not that important to me now as I have other autographs, but I always thought this was a spot on signature.  The people who did sign for him back in the 50's were obviously not this accurate.  Thoughts?  I just hope this doesnt turn out to be a Hans special but it could be.  Yes, he flooded the market once.

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Could you please post other examples and a link to the discussion on the FB Elvis group?

Thanks

Steve - here is the link

https://www.facebook.com/groups/elvisownedandworn/permalink/1716203...

You may have to be approved to follow the thread.  The other example is in there.

In case you have a problem, here is the other one posted which is currently on ebay

Thanks, Rich. Could you post a scan of the other side please?

do u mean me?

Yes, sorry Steve.

There are things that concern me about the autograph itself, like VIS of Elvis all having valleys between the letters instead of being closely packed humps like you usually see; and the RES of Presley all looking the same, like 3 waves.

That doesn't necessarily mean it can't be real, though.

What really concerns me is that the return receipt isn't also written in French besides English, and isn't the one issued for use starting 1959. Those were pink and look completely different.

I think this is a US return receipt.

THey also wrote these in French?  Live and learn lol.  I understand your concerns. The fan club president's name is on the reverse with her address and just in case she is still around and I dont want to expose her in this thread.  I will say there is a Air Force/Army Postmark stamped with the date July 22 1959 and a registered number is also written.

They were written in French as well if they weren't sent and delivered through US mail and whatever military mail service they used back then. At least in Europe.

Yours could be fine if it went through US and military mail.

The few I've seen were the pink cards in English and French, and they looked completely different.

The owner of the card could either cover up the recipient's name and address, or if they have good image editing skills, create a digital copy and digitally remove the name and address entirely.

International return receipts would be bi-lingual, in both French and the language of the issuing postal administration. French is the official language of the Universal Postal Union so that's why French would be the other language.

I think your card is OK. The one you posted from eBay was sold at Graceland Auctions...not that I haven't seen ones I wasn't comfortable with there.

The signature on that one is more typical than yours, but similar enough otherwise to yours to make me think yours is real. It looks like Elvis got mail from the US both through the military, with a receipt like yours, and through regular USPS international mail, with the pink return receipt.

I'd say you can sleep comfortably about it.

I read the FB post where someone said they were concerned because the date was written day/month/year instead of month/day year like we do in the US. If the military in Germany hired locals to assist in some things, that could explain why the date wasn't written US-style.

Thanks for your opinion and the information

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