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Hello All,

New to the site and collecting NASCAR Auto'ed memorabilia... I could use some input on these Dale Sr. Auto's I purchased off ebay. I now believe the ebay seller I bought these from is selling Dale Sr Auto'ed items on ebay under 3 different user ID's so I suspect these might be fakes...

I hope I am wrong but as I put everything together, the nearly identical listings, the identical patterns of feedback left for buyers, and the same last name on 2 sellers Id's I know for sure I have purchased from 2 of the 3 ID's!

I would like a professional opinion before I start calling out any ebay seller, ers... 

Thank You!!!

Mike. 

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must make life interesting for auction sites that push Jim wiggin's collections.  probably easier to just "make believe" to describe it as "in-person".  Although if this was originally a TTM then it would give rise to the secretarials. 

Well, Jim has both, and I can't imagine him ever saying he acquired something in-person that he got by mail. But any auction house worth its salt authenticates each autograph themselves, no matter the provenance.

Hey I stumbled upon this discussion in search of finding out if my own signed pic is real. Any thoughts???

Michael, not every Dale Sr photo like this is bad (this photo is actually from the 1990 GM Goodwrench hero card ) photos of this pose were released later.

This is a common pose to find signed by Dale Sr.

Why don't you show yours here and I will help you determine if it's good or not.

I posted a pic of mine along with an another older photo last night, you must of scrolled right past them!

Thanks again,

Mike.

Also what do you think of this card, I'm even afraid of Authentic cards now... :0) What do you think a ballpark fair market price would be???

Look forward to your replies!!!

 
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Here are the rest of the probable fake Dale Sr. auto'ed items purchased from goin3wyde last year! Basically identical to the ones I bought from bassmaster3n8 last week!!!

 
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these are all pretty doggone bad!

 

Michael, The only one that is authentic is the Autographics insert card.  The rest are fakes that were sold by the thousands on ebay.  The Dale Earnhardt Jr autograph is fake too.

 

Sorry bud.  Tell you what, PM your address and I will mail you a Dale Sr. signed trading card from my collection.  These forgeries aren't sold as much on ebay now. However, between 5-8 years ago, it was the wild west for NASCAR autographs.

I would think Mike can recoup some of his $$, depending on the fine print, from some of these ebay sellers by filing claims of "non-authentic" sold as "authentic".

Nothing worse than being the "Bearer of Good News" especially when you feel.. "it has to be authentic", right! 

I know man.  It gets old, especially when you see the same old forgeries pop back up.   I will help Michael talk to the seller 1st to get his money back. Of course, the seller already claims that he "bought" the items.

I just want to make sure Michael gets his money back and gets a real Dale Sr. autograph for his collection.

 

bassmaster3n8 Not a registered user

good news travels fast!  Seems others starting detecting this before Mike and based on his responses he "really believed" they were authentic.  For the "low end" sellers on EBAY this is probably too common a story.  Maybe he should come here and read your studies.

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