James Cagney- R R Auctions- Saul Goodman Collection

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Permalink Reply by DB on May 20, 2011 at 3:11pm

an original & authentic James Cagney;

 

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Permalink Reply by Bob Shinn on May 20, 2011 at 3:16pm

awesome

Thanks DB

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Permalink Reply by Bob Shinn on May 20, 2011 at 3:23pm

here is a 1980 original and authentic James Cagney

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Permalink Reply by Anthony Bautista on May 20, 2011 at 3:58pm

It has a lot of diffrences. But it also has a lot of same letters. The S in Saul in both personalizations are Identical .

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Permalink Reply by Bill Panagopulos on May 20, 2011 at 5:08pm

Deeb: Nice one.

 I keep wondering how ole Saul had all these photos around all the time.

 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin-Moderator on May 20, 2011 at 5:35pm

Bob,

Where are the exemplars from? For future note, be careful with autographs in the old AC Authentication Guide from 1999. We pulled it from the stores and destroyed the stock shortly after we bought the company back in 2004. Too many questionable signatures. I think a lot of the same ones were used in the AC Price Guide, too...at least 3rd edition back. And they were used in the magazine's signature page in the back of each issue until then, too. There were lots of good autographs, but a lot that, when I had them checked out, turned out to be questionable. They were all originally from the authentication guide.

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Permalink Reply by Bob Shinn on May 20, 2011 at 7:15pm

Steve...

The Exemplars are from Steve Raab

The contact below from my collection

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Permalink Reply by Bob Shinn on May 20, 2011 at 7:18pm

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Permalink Reply by Bill Panagopulos on May 21, 2011 at 11:23pm

The R&R Cagneys were signed by two different people (as were the Reagans).

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Permalink Reply by Hitch1010 on May 24, 2011 at 11:22pm

I agree.  the G's are off.

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Permalink Reply by DB on May 22, 2011 at 3:14am

It would appear to me that Cagney had terrible penmanship based on his Original (in his own hand circa 60) and not much better in the 1980's example provided by Bob.   I find it hard to fathom how or when the "flourish" developed but if you buy the 1939 example it was there all the time.  If that were the case then there appears to be similarities  but one has to wonder based on his originals (even if standing) if his handwriting could improve to such flourish.

 

time for a new signature study there Zipper.

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Permalink Reply by DB on May 28, 2011 at 7:06am

Here is one from AW.  The signature here seems authentic based on the one I UL earlier;

 

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