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I have a Morrison autograph. Bought it 10 years ago. Anybody have any opinions about the authenticity of it?

I have compared it to known signatures on Doors stationary, checks, and Christies auctioned signatures and it matches up all the way down to the age of paper and ink. The paper looks 40 years old. Ball point pen. Would love to have someone authenticate it or give me a value of it. Thanks.

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In my opinion, it isn't authentic. The "m" appears too pointed at the top, especially the second hump. I've seen a couple of Jim signatures in which the top of the "m" looks somewhat pointed, but not to that degree. I've never seen the first "r" written that way. It looks too rounded at the top. The top half of the "s" also looks unusual in how curved it is. Sorry.

Thanks for the feedback. I do know its old and that is came from a friends father who was a longtime collector and he had begun his collection long before the hobby became big business. The collection was impressive. I talked him into selling it to me because I am a Doors fan.

Interesting. There are at least a couple of other members here who are very familiar with his signature, so hopefully they will weigh in with their opinions.

sorry but IMHO this is not authentic

The Doors are my favorite band, and I've seen thousands of Morrison signatures (95% fake, 5% real ones).

This is a fake, but it's one of the best fakes you'll ever see. Now, this might not make sense,'s my reason for believing this.

It looks EXACTLY like a Morrison signature, except for one thing. It's to nicely done. Jim had the signature of a 5th grader. All the letters, to me, are done perfectly. Usually the J wasn't as sharp, but sometimes it was. All the other sections were good (spacing between the letters, the style, etc). Yet, it looks too neat.

I went to Roger Epperson's website and compared Thingfish's posted signature to the three examples that Roger has (two checks and a piece of paper).  So, since I am a non-expert, I have to ask the question.  How in the heck can you tell it's a forgery?  I am not at all doubting anyone's opinion or reasoning but I am just curious how someone can duplicate a signature that looks this good. 

I am sure most of us have at one time or another made the attempt at replicating a signature (a scientific test of sorts), just to see how easy or difficult it would be to do.  I can't even come close to some of the most basic signatures, but I have to say that this Morrison looks darn good.  The spacing, angle, size and flow of the lettering is impressive.  Is this done by an artist?  A gifted individual?  Someone that doesn't have a life and just sits for hours, days or years trying to replicate Jim Morrison's signature?

Yes, there are obvious Jim Morrison forgeries flooding the market that even I can tell are fake but a signature such as this one has me scratching my head.

Well if it is a fake then it's the best fake ever, and if it's real then it's one of the best clean legible signatures Mojo Risin signed on a good day when he wasn't drinking. I think there are more tell tale signs than there are not. And I realize how subjective this is and not an exact science unless it's forensically examined.

A lot of the real ones have the 'J' rising above the 'M', The 'O's are consistent, the 'R's are consistent but I have seen them squared off and rounded before on real ones. Same with the 'M's. Some pointed and some more rounded at top. The "J" and the end "N" are consistent with documented ones but some are dipped below the other letters, sometimes not. The fakes I have seen are usually really bad. This one matches too many characteristics to say for certain its fake, in my opinion. Consider the age of the paper and ball point pen sure leaves you wondering if this baby isn't the real deal. Here are some other examples of real ones.


Here's something you said above that is commonly said by the forgery industry: 

"And I realize how subjective this is and not an exact science unless it's forensically examined." 

Over 99% of the autographs authenticated by forensic document examiners for resale are fakes or forgeries. I'd be surprised if one out of 500 are genuine. And in any case, autograph authentication isn't an exact science, forensics or not...except when it can prove something couldn't have been signed by who purportedly signed it. 

Hi Gordon,

I checked Roger's site but couldn't find the three Jim Morrison examples you said he has. Can you post the links please? Thanks.

Regarding Thingfish's Morrison, people have been making deceptive forgeries for years. Where there's real profit potential there's real incentive. But the autograph in question here is not a good forgery in my opinion...which is why I was able to come to a strong opinion on it.

I'm not an expert, I'm an enthusiast. But even the average collector can learn to identify the most "questionable" autographs.

Sadly, most people don't study up at all, and trust the seller, or the authenticator the seller uses—it's a confidence game. So most buyers end up with worthless garbage.

The third signature is actually from a signed concert program. 


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