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John & Yoko - Fleetwood Owen - Oct. 17, 2000

Here is a John and Yoko autograph sold by Fleetwood Owen in 2000. The seller is showing the sale invoice as part of the provenance. To me it looks like someone tried to copy an original John and Yoko autograph. It doesn't look real to me. I tried to locate the actual auction image but could not find it. Any other thoughts?

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Permalink Reply by Beatlesfan64 on January 11, 2017 at 5:27pm
It looks off. Both signatures, actually.
Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on January 11, 2017 at 5:40pm

So there is currently no way to connect those signatures to the October 2000 auction invoice?

Permalink Reply by fab432 on January 11, 2017 at 5:49pm
I have tried to locate an image but nothing comes up. I have enough information and key words but no hits on my searches. I know it was October 17, 2000 - lot #7 the sale was called Beatles Imagine Auction and auctioneer Fleetwood Owen. My bet is this autograph is a copy of an original although the sale price is really low even for 2000?
Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on January 11, 2017 at 6:05pm

I see references to the sale but no imagery. Your suspicions might well be founded - others with "Beatle eyes" will chime in I am sure.

Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on January 11, 2017 at 6:05pm

these do not appear to be authentic

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 11, 2017 at 7:51pm

I don't like the Lennon at all. Yoko I don't know that well.

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on January 11, 2017 at 8:07pm
These don't look right to me either.
Permalink Reply by Paul Hakimian on January 11, 2017 at 8:59pm
Both of them look way off.
Permalink Reply by Paul on January 11, 2017 at 9:35pm
Way off!
Permalink Reply by sling on January 11, 2017 at 10:08pm

Try Cooper Owen which was owned by Cooper and Mick Fleetwood (of Fleetwood mac) I think.  If I remember correctly Cooper Owen was a dubious company that screwed a lot of people

Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on January 12, 2017 at 5:30am

Don't like 'em...

Permalink Reply by Dan Moss on January 12, 2017 at 5:45am

Here's why I don't like it -

1. The signatures start and end too neatly. There's no trailing off.

2. The ink is the same uniform shade, no light and dark.

3. Where's the 'n' in John? I'm pretty sure he never left it out.

4. Cooper Owen/Fleetwood Owen have sold some great stuff like instruments, clothes, etc. but they're not reliable with autographs in my opinion.

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