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JSA is passing fake autographs by the hundreds for eBay seller dirty_water_ink

musicandmore-nyc and gothamcitygraphs 

Study these autographs protect yourself!!

I came across these two sites while searching eBay. Not a single item is authentic, I am almost sure that this is the same forgery ring that circulated the mass amount of forgeries that GAI was passing 1-2 years back, you may be familiar with the eBay name dirty_water_ink, well I am no professional but I can say that I fell victim to a forgery sold by that seller and since then I dedicated some of my free time to study the forgeries they were producing to protect myself (even after they changed their user I.D. to hide) probably more than anyone I know, and I am 100% sure that this is dirty_water_ink, only this time JSA is passing the items!!!!!!! Shame on you JSA. I guess it is true what they say about the company being ran by children! 

How can JSA be considered more credible than GAI if they are passing the same forgeries that GAI stopped passing?

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My understanding is that he stopped consulting for them for a period of time because of the fake music autographs they were passing and not running by him, they have since come to an agreement and he is currently consulting for them.  You can send him an email and ask for clarification though, it's always better to hear it from the source.

I quess he has recently indicated that during a typical month he authenticates about a hundred autographs a month for them.

is JSA a publicly traded company like PSA?

No, it is not.

I Know the truth will come out eventually about the autographs on these two sites in question being fake and from the dirty_water_ink forgery crew. Like I said before I don't trust JSA anymore just like I don't trust GAI. But I do agree with an earlier post that you should buy based on the autograph and not the sticker. And I would stay away from every JSA autograph those two sellers have listed. I would urge JSA and PSA and even GAI to save the images of the autographs that are posted on those ebay sites and stop passing that forgery-rings stuff. I think Jason D and Joe E have spent a ton of time and effort defending those sites which makes me think they have something to do with those accounts, its actually pretty obvious. You can't defend forgeries no matter who authenticates them JSA,GAI or even PSA. I hope this is a eye opener for anyone thinking about taking their items to JSA, the company definitely has something going on internally, these guys made GAI look bad and this definitely makes JSA look equally as bad.

You display a strong lack of reading comprehension.  I never once commented on the signatures, or the authenticity of the items - I will let the others on this forum, who are the experts do so.  I have also not once defended any of the sellers of the items you have raised.

What I have questioned is who you are and what your motives are.  You may or may not be Steve, I dont care to be honest, but its clear you are in some way affiliated with GA.  You have ignored the question posed to you multiple times in this thread - What is your opinion on GA?  The lack of response answers the question for me.

Although I think your intentions for starting this thread are completely wrong, and that in my opinion it is people like you which make this a snake filled industry, Im glad these forgeries were posted and the experts in this thread were able to confirm that.  Im disappointed that JSA passed such a large number of fakes, but am glad this has been exposed.

Im summary (and in my own humble opinion) you're an idiot.

 

 

"Rick," when you write "I don't trust GAI" you actually mean "You don't trust GA."  Correct.

Rick/Sipe

You're a real Peach. Now I have some kind of affiliation with these accounts? I made comments on 3 Players that I'm familiar with that took me all of maybe a half hour in total for the posts I've made and all of a sudden I'm affiliated. I'll let you think what you want, but as I've mentioned in my earlier posts I am the one that actually called out some of JSA and PSA/DNA certified forgeries in the past as well as the many many GA/GAI/GLOBAL/Sipe forgeries so I have no allegiance to any account and/or any of these authentication companies. Honestly I can care less what you or anyone else has to say or think about my opinion(s) because that's the only thing any of us here can offer is an opinion and I offered mine.

If I came on here and said I looked at every single item and they are all good then you can say I was defending these accounts but I only commented on a total of 3 guys I doubt that makes me affiliated with these accounts. For someone who claims to have been duped into buying a GA forgery you seem to be some kind of "expert" now. Just curious when you spoke to Sipe did you happen to talk at all about the countless number of forgeries that he continues to sticker (including the one you bought)? Oh wait You're Sipe so that would be like talking to yourself as a third person, almost like our friend Ricky Henderson. 

GA=GAI=JSA= FAKE

Link to slapmesilly2012

BOOOM It all makes sense now!!!! Look at that site above!!! This is the same fake PSA Cabrera they posted with the same fake Cabrera certed with a "All Florida Autographs" COA.

This forgery crew is the Johnny Manziel forgery crew 1,000 %!!!!  They are the Jameis Winston forgery crew too!

 

They are definitely forging a serious amount of autographs

JSA is no different from GAI/GA whatever they go by, but I can say this GAI/GA doesn't seem to be passing those forgeries anymore only JSA.

Only because GA lost their business not because they got any better at authenticating. They still pass tons of fakes. GA is still horrible.

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