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I'm sure that many sellers are using this to forge autographs.  I wonder how many make it through TPA?  Any guesses?  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynLL9588vhU

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Janet Jackson actually uses this often.....lol

Well isn't that nice. A machine that pays for itself. Yes I say that sarcastically. Because I know that these are being used by probably many shady sellers on eBay.

The auto from that machine on that poster would never make it through a decent TPA.  There are so many pen lifts its crazy (and they can be seen if you pause that video at the end)   Those who study MJ know usually how many pen lifts he makes and where they are.

However, that being said, decent autopen machines were/are used all the time in the industry by stars, and there are MJ autopens out there that were specifically approved by him under his Triumph label or MJJ Productions from the 80's. 

These are those two examples.  (And people do try to sell these on eBay as authentic yet, in fact there are 2 out there on eBay right now of the 2nd auto--on lithos, which is where these were usually printed).  The first auto - is from the Moonwalk book and was used on materials after the book.

-w

I curse the day the SOB who invented autopen machines was born! Great info Wascher

Ha!  Yeah, me too.

Thanks for the information Wascher.  It is very informative.

No problem. :)

Not exactly the same, but I wonder how many fraudsters use photoshop to create "contact" photo's of proof that the items they are selling were attained in person with the seller standing right next to the celeb?

Dishonest sellers have resorted to these tactics in the past.  I am sure that they still do.  The topic has been discussed on AML in the past.  You should be able to find some old discussions about it.

Just a clarification...

The device used in the video is not an Autopen. It appears to be some sort of plotter.

For an Autopen, the item to be signed is placed on the surface of the machine and remains stationary. The pen is on an armature that moves and "signs" the item.

My sense is that signatures created by this plotter are probably not that deceptive on close exam. As you can see in the video, the signature is "assembled" in pieces and is not a continuous flowing line.

Yeah I didn't think it was an autopen either, I referred to it as that "machine" lol - because I know the autopens look much different. 

Figured I'd show a few "real" autopen type autos after though.

There are some videos on youtube with true autopen machines.

-w

They similarly use art mat cutters, replacing the blade with a pen or marker. They're more deceptive.

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