"...although Mike Frost's message reads "Also any item we certify would also have a matching numbered hologram." which I do not see on the COA above. They will either put the hologram on the front or back of the item (album in…"
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Does anyone have any info on this company? Can you trust their authenticity certificates?There is plenty of info about them online from Google - linked to their website or company profiles (i.e.…Continue
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Steve Cyrkin replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"I don't think the PAAS COA is fake. Looks exactly like his, from the letter itself, to the font, the signature and the seal.
And as E.B.G. inferred, why would you fake a PAAS LOA anyway? "
Steve Cyrkin replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"What do you know—the classic forgery seller's excuse. JSA and PSA/DNA pay-off eBay which is why their signed Beatles album got bounced. Or they're not impartial. Or they're not "court-approved" forensic document…"
Mr Zipper replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"Right. Some strange logic at work... someone is supposed to know fake PAAS certs are in circulation.??? If this is a issue known by PAAS, have they issued a press release to alert the community?"
Steve Kahldon replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"Steve,
I'm not sure how Michael Frost can accuse you of being dishonest when you have a copy of the PAAS certification shown. He may claim that they didn't authenticate it and it's fake, but how are you to know? He should…"
Mike Rowlands replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"I've bought a dozen or so things from this auction house (Pioneer); if you're there in person and are knowledgeable about what you're bidding on, there are decent deals to be had...but I've been burned by them more than once and…"
Steve Cyrkin replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"$5,200 for a fake signed Beatles album. We just witnessed a felony."
Mike Rowlands replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"Sold for $5,200. Sheesh. They also have quite a few baseball autographs (some sold as of this writing for $500+, i.e.: Ruth, Cobb, Gehrig etc) certified by ACE...who I have not heard a lot of great things about."
Steve Cyrkin replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"The album's up to $400!"
Steve Cyrkin replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"You mean because it's like counterfeiting pesos instead of dollars?"
Steve Cyrkin replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"I've seen several fake PSA/DNA and Frank Caiazzo letters. Or things like albums where they take, say, a Roger Waters signed album that's PSA/DNA certified and add the other Pink Floyd autographs. You're more likely to find that going…"
Mr Zipper replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"I'd like more info on this. I heard of the news reports of the fake PSA letter with the Babe Ruth balls in Florida. I've seen no other reports of additional cases of this happening."
E.B.G. replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"Why fake a PAAS cert? I'm not following here."
Mike Rowlands replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"If these signatures are authentic(ated), and it is indeed valued at $75k to $95k, I'd expect it to show up at Julien's or whatnot, not a local mom & pop with an internet presence.
The current auction house emailed me, giving their…"
Steve Cyrkin replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"Mike Frost of PAAS contacted me and said that they never certified this Beatles album:
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Mike Rowlands replied to Dan Nelles's discussion Academy Of Manuscript and Autograph, LLC - Legit?"This same album is up for auction on January 22nd 2012 at Pioneer Auction in Portland, OR. It does not surprise me at all that their showcase item for the next auction is this LP. Here's the full auction catalog. The album is…"
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