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JSA is passing fake autographs by the hundreds for eBay seller dirty_water_ink
musicandmore-nyc and gothamcitygraphs
Study these autographs protect yourself!!
I came across these two sites while searching eBay. Not a single item is authentic, I am almost sure that this is the same forgery ring that circulated the mass amount of forgeries that GAI was passing 1-2 years back, you may be familiar with the eBay name dirty_water_ink, well I am no professional but I can say that I fell victim to a forgery sold by that seller and since then I dedicated some of my free time to study the forgeries they were producing to protect myself (even after they changed their user I.D. to hide) probably more than anyone I know, and I am 100% sure that this is dirty_water_ink, only this time JSA is passing the items!!!!!!! Shame on you JSA. I guess it is true what they say about the company being ran by children!
How can JSA be considered more credible than GAI if they are passing the same forgeries that GAI stopped passing?
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Permalink Reply by Rick Johnson on
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This Florida/NYC forgery crew seems to have left the bad Derek Jeter's alone but all the other graphs have remained the same! It is safe to say that JSA's Database can no longer be trusted to authenticate autographs. It is a shame I will no longer purchase JSA items, where there is smoke there is fire and there is no telling how many more JSA has already certified, I would urge anyone who has purchased a JSA item that looks similar to the ones listed on the two ebay sites above to request a refund as the chances they are real is slim to none.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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Rick,
I edited the title of your discussion, hope you don't mind. But it was a bit long and accused the seller of forging, and we don't know if they actually sign fake autographs themselves.
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Permalink Reply by Ian Baldock on
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This is absolutely scandalous if true. Sounds like what PSA does for Press pass if thats true. I would never blindly buy any autograph because of a sticker. Buyer Beware!
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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on
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One thing for sure, they are using the same background (the carpeting) as did Dirty_Water_Ink.
More on this from me soon.
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Permalink Reply by Jason D on
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It doesn't look like the same background to me, I just looked up an old dirty_water_ink item and the background was different like a green color this is more of a bluish color.
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Jason, I was being as much facetious as I was serious.
I'll be looking at the items this weekend or hopefully sooner.
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I am 100% sure it is dirty_water_ink. I had already figured JSA is no better than GAI but this makes it clear as day. I will no longer buy JSA, GAI is probably better considering they stopped certifying this trash, JSA should have learned from GAI's mistakes, there is not a single real autograph on either of those sites.
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Just curious how you came to determine these accounts are associated to dirty_water_ink?
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JSA = GAI
There is no way around that, the proof is in those sites!
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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on
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Rick, in my opinion, thats an absurd comment. There is no comparison at all
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Carl, I have a feeling that this is a fishing expedition put on by Steve Sipe, if you read the original post by "Rick Johnson" and some of the follow up's by him the wording is very similar to that used by Sipe and the fact that he would always compare GA to JSA and PSA. This statement alone is what made me come to this conclusion "How can JSA be considered more credible than GAI if they are passing the same forgeries that GAI stopped passing? " so with that statement alone he once again is trying to compare GA to JSA. Just my honest opinion.
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