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Harrison Ford Questionable Autographs
Some of you know me, and from what I understand, someone caught selling yet another bad Ford autograph has once again, decided to spout off at the mouth. Claims that I am a dealer and I only tell unsuspecting autograph buyers that their item is fake so that I can sell my own Harrison Fords. Again I am hearing claims that the likely supplier of the forgeries is the true expert on Harrison Ford autographs.
Side note the seller sent me a friend request message yesterday with the single question about if I knew a particular collector. In my world this says plenty, and likely tells me where the piece originated.
When I tell people that I track the sale of Harrison Ford autographs, I am not kidding around, I watch sales here, I watch sales on rebelscum and on ebay and other online auction sites.
Who signed them? Who is the forger? I am not going to play games and point fingers, nor will I even guess if the supplier is the forger, all I can do is put together where they came from.
I will give the people that have had these in their possession, that courtesy. They can come clean about where they got them as the "in-person" and "private signing" stories fall apart.
This is the same courtesy I tried to provide to Marc Moser, the last guy caught in a huge Ford Forgery mess. He decided to drag my name thru the mud for a few months as well, but by doing that he just shot himself in the foot. People will wake up sooner or later, and the truth does come out.
I present these images to you, again supplying the signatures and letting the people on this forum and others as judge, you decide the truth. You will also be the deciding factor if these autograph professionals keep their reputations or if they have earned brand new ones.
Every item below has been tracked to the most recent seller, and through his own admission the source of the autographs, I will also include items sold elsewhere by the supplier who admitted on these very pages to supplying some of these.
The pattern is pretty clear to me.
As for the recent claims about me being a dealer, out to only hurt other peoples supposedly reputable business.
Please keep in mind, that anyone that has purchased anything at all from me in the past 5 years has approached me. When they do I usually point them in other directions and offer to authenticate (for free) any item they ask about, from any other source.
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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on
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I am in the minority on this one with Mike. Although not nearly as well aware as he is on this issue, I have been following Guinness very closely and to see one that is in this fresh and clean looking throws me for a loop.
Maybe it's just my experience deceiving me but when I see something that looks too good for the price, alarm bells go off in my head.
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Permalink Reply by Pete Bendu on
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This is an end of life Alec autograph, I have at least 5 pieces signed with the same pen......where I can actually watch the pen go from a beautiful bold red to the red we saw here with darker areas at the turns, to a lighter red. When his pink paint pen finally died he went to this red pen which is almost like fountain ink.
I looked at it twice because of the placement and the nearly closed A, but this is real.....100%. Sad that PSA and Grad missed it, but there is no denying the facts.
I understand the concern about multiple pieces hitting the market, but imagine if I sold my collection or Grad sold his......collectors with a deep stock do tend to cash out on occasion. and none of us display everything we have. Plenty of crisp fresh stuff is sitting in boxes and binders around the world.
I have seen and busted some of the best Guinness forgers out there right back to 2000. No one was ever this good to have period pen, period photos and hit every correct pen stroke.
A friend has been begging me for this shot for years, I pointed him at it Thursday night, no idea if he got it, but I would have bought it immediately otherwise.
I don't have time to dig out my stuff and do bigger scans, but the following should suffice.
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Permalink Reply by PMSbull on
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There's NOBODY that I would trust more when it comes to autographs than Pete.
Thanks to him, I personally have saved huge sums, recouped a large amount after my wife was scammed with an Ali signature, and have also scored some big bargains too.
Just so you guys know the charachter of the man we are dealing with here, I have on several occasions asked Pete for his paypal details so that i can send him a few bucks just as a thank you so maybe he can grab a few beers on me - and he has ALWAYS refused.
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I agree, Pete is as good as it gets. Nobody questions his knowledge. Just discussing this particular Guinness. I'm sure we all can agree that finding a signed Guinness of this quality is difficult on the marketplace so it is definitely worth the note. Especially at a super low asking price. And, call me OCD, but I rarely have seen him sign a Star Wars without underlining his name either.
I would take Pete's word over any current TPA.
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Permalink Reply by Mike T on
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Here is the example in question:
Here is one of mine, as close as I could get to matching:
Here are Pete's examples, best I could do with the scans:
I think there's quite a few differences, none of which I have been able to explain with my exemplars. Alec always signed straight as an arrow, and you see some deviations from that here. The baseline, most noticeable with the 'A' in Alec, the consistency of the baseline in 'Guinness', but in the questioned example the n's and s's drop below, the spacing of the letters, most noticeable in the scrunched s's, the overall height of the letter formation is inconsistent throughout the questioned example, when in his usual signature it is spot on throughout.
I agree with Pete that I have never seen a Guinness forgery this good, but I wouldn't discount the possibility of there ever being one, and if someone with a binder full of these decided to purge, they wouldn't be using JSA to authenticate only to sell on ebay for 50% off what they could get at a proper auction, or in a private sale to other collectors. There's a lot of things that don't add up.
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Yes, it was 600 OBO.. not sure if it sold for the $600 or a little less. Either way, this 3.5x5 cut piece of junk with a crappy signature sold for more than that just a few weeks ago. Guinness stuff is commanding high prices right now, solo shots are regularly selling for $800-1000 every month in far inferior condition than the one in question.
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Permalink Reply by Bradford on
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Dang! Guess it's time to sell. How much could I get for this one?
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For real, definitely in that range. Take a look at iconic auctions, every month they have at least one, it sells for $600-900, then it ends up on eBay for $1200 and someone buys it. Happens without fail every month. I don't get it but that's what it is.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on
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I had no ideas Guinness was that high. Maybe time to consider selling my 3x5 card. (I'll keep the signed photos ;-) )
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