Terrier8hof thanks for your reply. I've noticed your on here a lot, great posts. Fairly new to everything, been collecting my entire life but just started buying the past year. Amazing how crazy this business is, anyways I might have a patent to change the game. Still working out the kinks. I also have several connects looking to invest. Everyone is always complaining about psa, jsa, coa's and fakes. I'm not looking for $$ or ideas, I need guys %100 interested in cleaning up this hobby. If you could private message me that would be great. Once again thanks for the reply