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Are IPhone 7 Autographs Considered Real Autographs????

I recently seen a person get an autograph from NHRA legend John Force at The World Of Wheels in Chicago. He had John sign a photo of them that he just taken of both them together on his IPhone. John didn't know how to sign it, but the guy explained how easy it was to sign. Afterward I ask him how to do it.

He explained, all you do is choose a photo in your photo library. Tape on where you see 3 small lines that has circles on them. Next, Tape on the circle that has 3 dots in it, Tape on the tool box that says "Markup" underneath. Now you can set what color and the width of the autograph that you what on your photo.

So, a couple of days ago, I met The Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan and I asked her to sign the IPhone photo that I had of us when I met her a few months pier. The nice person that she is, she was glad to sign with the soft rubber tipped pen that I gave her. I think wanted to sign because she admitted to me that she had never seen that done before.

Not 5 minutes later, I met The Illinois Governor Bruce Rauner, I asked him to do the same, and he was pleased to sign. He to admitted he never seen this before. I think both photos came out rather nice!!!!!

But my question is, in the real world of collecting autographs, Is this considered a real autograph?  

I myself am a Picture Proof Photo Autograph collector (Autographs that I take a picture of the person signing the item). I have heard from many collectors that have impressed to me that they don't need to take a photo of the celebrity signing for authenticity because the autograph they received would be going in their own collection which they will never sell it. The only reason I don't take a photo of a person signing an autograph is when that person is signing a photo that I have taken of us together pier to meeting him again and I would not be selling it in the future either. Who would buy it???

 I personally like it and can see the possibilities of the IPhone autographs becoming popular because now you can meet a celebrity, take a selfie with him, and now have him autograph it.

Or you can go to an sports event with many photos on your phone of all the stars that will be there, and now you don't even have to carry a big notebook of photos. You don't even have to carry a pen. You can just have them sign with their finger!!!! (but then authenticators would now have to know the loops and hoops of an hand written and an finger written autograph) 

And what would be the difference of selling/buying an mail in autograph from an IPhone autograph? People sell reprints of autographs all the time.

I would like to hear you thoughts of The IPhone autographs!!!!

Thank You Very Much!!!!!    

FRED   (Picture Proof Autographs)

 

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This is one of the best things I've read lately. Well played, sir. LOL
Cheers. It's important to have a glass or seven of wine and put on an oversized David Byrne suit as frequently as possible.

One thing that should probably be mentioned about digital signatures is that the software and device can potentially measure and record pen pressure flawlessly throughout every pixel of the signature as well as the precise speed/timing/stops of movements made while signing. This data can then be stored with the signature file. This of course doesn't mean the signature image (including the associated data file) cannot be simply copy/pasted, but it's still cool nonetheless and could, at the very minimum, make it far easier to prove that the original digital signature was authentically signed by the celebrity originally on-creation.

... I ended up looking into this stuff as a spin-off while researching whether AI could be used to authenticate and produce better results than humans. (It can.)

Pretty sure many of the newer bank and CC signature devices are now storing this type of data. I saw a cool web app a few months ago that allowed a user to sign twice and it would tell you the likelihood that it was the same signer. Very fun stuff.

Personal and sentimental value? Yes. Value in the marketplace? At best minimal.

Unless its Physical "pen to paper" I don't consider it a true autograph.

+1

I think a real autograph is unique. You can't duplicate them without creating something that - close as it may seem - differs distinctly from the original. A copy is just that - a copy. In the case of something signed digitally, you have something that can be duplicated indefinitely in which the original item is actually lost due to every image being identical.

As I post this there is drama on facebook. Brian Herring who was bb8 on Star Wars has posted some fake autographs on Pops that were sold with a photo of him signing. Of course the Pops were not the ones he signed. For those that don't know what the hell I'm talking about. Pops are little figures mostly with big heads and small bodies that resemble multiple movie,sports,tv and other characters. A new thing many younger people are getting signed.

They're cheap and awful, so of course sellers love them.

Most of the people I've seen getting them signed are genuine collectors who collect them. Most sellers think they are stupid toys.

I hate the things, but I think it's kind of mildly amusing to see people continue to purchase them until they realize it's this generation's beanie baby.

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