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Any thoughts on these signed CD's off eBay?

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I forgot that, sorry. So perhaps take a few months to see if buying autographs is for you and then decide.

It may not be. There's nothing wrong with that.

No apology is needed or  necessary, i honestly am very new to Beatles autographs and it does get frustrating when there are so many different opinions but like you said before if it’s authenticated or not it’s best to follow your own best judgment and put some time in and see if the signature is right for you, 

Definitely. There's no rush.

you Might be right, Perry and frank may have been mistaken on these ones, I personally don’t know what to believe or who to trust anymore, 

I'll give you guys an example of something that similarly happened a few yrs ago.

MJ drawings showed up on the market - they had a very believable story with them. When I first saw one or two of them.... the drawing style was completely unlike anything I'd seen MJ do. The signature also had a few things that could just be a glitch that he had that day or not. I brushed them off but kept them in my files. I even had a person on this forum telling me how much he respected the seller, that he knew him well, that the story was 100% true. Roger E was sent some to authenticate, and he like me, noticed a glitch but didn't think much of it and "blessed it" :) And then Roger received more of them.

Fast forward suddenly the market flooded (Roger only passed those first lots), and Lizzie and I started sounding the alarm. We did signature studies much like this to show the authenticators (and the forum) - that each item had the signature glitch - never seen before on real MJ's. Long story short, the forgers story fell apart, he lives in Canada, and he had to see a shrink by the time we finished outing who he was because it scared him (I still believe he's forging though).

But....not once did Roger and I have a heated dispute (even if at first he didn't agree). Not once did I disrespect him on this forum for his opinion but he did change it. Roger and I now speak a few times a year on items... sometimes just to run an item by me to see if I suspect anything (as I constantly scan the market), or I send him new info on forgers out there and I try to show their glitches and share their names/info with him.

It's not about the authenticators being "bad" or not trusting them ever again, nor is it about tarnishing them. The forgers get better every day, and the authenticators learn along with all of us in the community.

I am not saying these Ringo's are "bad" either .... as I don't study Ringo, but I do think when someone like Ballroom sounds the alarms, people should pay attention.

(sorry I edited this twice, it kept showing up with teeny fonts)

Perfect Daniel!!!. For me...(in no particular order)...It's Frank...Perry....and TRACKS in England. Those are the big 3 in my opinion...

"...I have Perry and Frank letters that prove behind any doubt that it's authentic...."

NO letter from anyone proves authenticity - I believe Perry just finished saying that...

"...holy..."? :(  

But you were just trying to sell it Thursday, after this thread started.

What do you want from me? Do I owe you something? Do I need to get permission from you for the things I do? If I want, I will sell, and if I don't want to, I won't sell.

No, you don't owe me anything. I was just surprised by your 180 and sudden certainty.

I also have a great deal of a respect for Frank, who is indeed one of the best. If you told me prior to this that I would be disagreeing with him on multiple related signatures, I wouldn’t have believed it. I would have preferred a discussion strictly about the signatures, but obviously that wasn’t going to happen. Despite that, it’s difficult to say nothing when several months worth of research is telling you that there’s a big problem, and the items are ending up in the hands of fellow autograph collectors. I really struggled with how to go about discussing this issue, but here we are.

Ballroom, no issues with the way you handled this

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