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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 29, 2018 at 1:28pm

Hi Jay,

This is a great Tupac to study. I'm not sure if this is real or not, but I think it has a decent chance of being legit. The seller said he took the screenshots from the video, BTW.

It would be valuable to get some known genuine Tupac exemplars to use for comparison. This could be valuable study.

Thank you for posting this.

Permalink Reply by Jay on November 29, 2018 at 1:48pm

Steve,

thanks for the reply I have attached two photos from the Tupac resurrection book. This is directly from his estate. You can see the flow starting from the 2 then directly to the P. I have never seen the 2 end crossing over the A & P. The first two images are from the book and the last is from the eBay seller. I didn’t use any third party examples because I believe that will just cause more of a debate. Thanks Jay

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Permalink Reply by Tim G. on November 29, 2018 at 3:29pm

That last Tupac must be a Joke, right?? I've never seen so many start and stop points. He says that he is the one with the clipboard. If you watch the video, at the end, you can plainly see that Tupac signed 2Pac very fast. No time for any of the Inscription.

Permalink Reply by Jay on November 29, 2018 at 3:35pm

I agree with you Tim!

Permalink Reply by WhenIGetFree on May 22, 2019 at 6:44am

I must agree also

Last one is in all sorts of trouble

Permalink Reply by Ivo on June 18, 2019 at 9:03am

I just found this at the auction.

https://www.pristineauction.com/a2455136-Tupac-Shakur-Signed-4x65-C...

It was authenticated by Beckett!

Permalink Reply by WhenIGetFree on September 15, 2019 at 7:40am

That's just wrong bro

How can they certify something with  out examples

Cause if they had examples they would not ave passed surely.

How embarrassing 3k LOLLL

Some poor person is holding this right now :(

Permalink Reply by Tim G. on September 15, 2019 at 9:49am

Are you referencing the one from Pristine Auction??

Permalink Reply by WhenIGetFree on September 15, 2019 at 3:51pm

Yes Pristine - Looking at the cut 2015

There was hardly any certified useful Pac pieces to reference 

So how did the pass sign analysis when there are dozens and character flaws 

And anyone who looks at that should laugh - Auction house pay for certs - that much is obvious 

Permalink Reply by Jay on September 15, 2019 at 4:06pm

The 2 looks like it crosses straight to the C rather then looping to the P right after. I have attached an example of a 2pac estate signature. It was published in the Tupac Resurrection book. IMO it seems forged and used on a aged paper cut.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 15, 2019 at 4:26pm

It was authenticated by BGS, Beckett Grading; not BAS, Beckett Authentication. If it's BGS, it was probably authenticated Fall 2016 or earlier.

Permalink Reply by WhenIGetFree on September 15, 2019 at 4:59pm

Wow Thanks Steve Fall 2016 - Solid fact - Afeni died in 2017 (Pacs Mum) who would take anyone releasing PAC's material to court and take everything they owned- so his hand was hidden until she died and then his hand was released for all to see and since 2017 JSA has it on lock. 

But before this sad day, how can any Authenticity Houses have authenticated something so unknown at the time with so many fakes getting around also lets not forget - I know I had a bunch of them - Please check attached and tell me if the Peace hand sign looks authentic - Never seen a peace sign like this ?? 4k usd they want for this and certified JSA...? Like the the other unknown this thread is about 

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