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Made Questionable Purchase, Please Help

Hello everyone, I am very new to the autograph hobby and do not know much at all.  I purchased 4 autographed pictures at my local auction last weekend and was extremely excited about this purchase until I did some research on the company that the COA is with.  I know it is probably a rookie mistake to take every COA seriously, but I fell for it.  The company is ACE and everything that I have read is terrible.  I would like to get another company to authenticate them for me but I cannot afford to waste anymore money for someone to say they are fake.  Hopefully someone has some good news.

 

What I have is Christian Bale (batman), Hugh Jackman (wolverine), Harrison Ford (indiana jones), and tim allen and tom hanks (toy story).  I have looked online nad the Harrison Ford looks like it may be legit, but once again I am very new to this and could be seeing it look legit to make myself feel better.  I paid 130 for all four. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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Permalink Reply by ron pepper on July 28, 2012 at 6:04pm

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Permalink Reply by Dane on July 28, 2012 at 6:28pm

Ron, you could try to get them authenticated. If they fail, I believe you would have legal recourse against the auction house for passing on a forgery.

Permalink Reply by mark peterson on July 28, 2012 at 8:11pm

Sorry,the Tom Hanks looks questionable to me.Its different than one he signed for me years ago.

Permalink Reply by mark peterson on July 28, 2012 at 8:19pm

Here is my Tom Hanks.

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Permalink Reply by ron pepper on July 28, 2012 at 10:27pm

Yeah after looking at Tom Hanks and Tim Allen they looked a bit off, thanks for the help.

Permalink Reply by ron pepper on July 28, 2012 at 8:17pm

The auction listed it as having an ACE COA and they say everything is sold as is where is.  Which probably gets them out of being liable, but honestly I have no idea. I may send one in at a time as I cannot afford to send them all in at once.  What is the best place to have them authenticated?

Permalink Reply by Dane on July 28, 2012 at 10:36pm

Before I start, this entire post should not be considered nor be perceived as legal advice. I'm not authorized to provide legal counsel in any state within the United States of America or it's associated territories and protectorates.

Just because they say it's sold "as is where is" (typical non-legal mumbo-jumbo) doesn't exclude them from liability in some cases. These would include either you or the auction house being located in the State of California. It may even apply if the consigner/seller resides/resided in California. The reason is that California law would require that if the item was sold as signed by whoever, receiving anything not signed by whoever would constitute fraud, regardless of "as is/where is" clauses.

The issue will come down to what the court accepts as "evidence" of the items being non-legitimate. I guess if someone is an expert in this field and is willing to testify against the legitimacy of the item, you could always subpoena them in a case.

Anyway, it's usually not a large enough amount to make said lawsuits worth pursuing. It's one of those things, where if you live in a state with similar laws, you merely tell the auction house that they sold you fraudulent goods. Then they would be required to take them back and refund you. If they don't, you would contact the police, since the auction house would be distributing fraudulent goods.

On an aside, eBay was sued by Louis Vuitton Moet Hennessy for fake LV bags being sold on the website. LVMH won the case. They also won the appeal.

Permalink Reply by Trapper9990 on July 28, 2012 at 8:13pm

I would also say they are not genuine

Permalink Reply by Geoff LaVeine on July 28, 2012 at 8:42pm

If the Ford truly is good then I'd say the silver lining is that $130 for a real Ford auto on an Indy picture (even though it's Crystal Skull) would be a good deal. 

Permalink Reply by Steven Jackson on July 28, 2012 at 9:37pm

I read that putting the item in a frezzer for abit will let you peel the sticker right off

Permalink Reply by John Strickland on July 29, 2012 at 6:34am

I was recently told you can use nail polish remover for the stickers on photographs and balls, the only reason I have not attempted this is because the sticker on mine nearly touches one of the autographs ! If there was an expert in this field locally at removing it I would take it there.

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