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Bruce Springsteen Real?

I recently joined here and am fairly new to autograph collecting. Yesterday i posted a link to a Bruce Springsteen on Ebay and had many of you tell me it was fake (thanks!) One of the members here, Jarrod, messaged me tonight and offered me several of his Bruce Springsteen autographs. I asked him if he minded if I put it out there for everyone's opinion and he said that was fine. So, here are the ones I like best from what he sent me. Also, he told me to offer him a price. I see them going from one end of the spectrum to the next as far as price on Ebay, and now I don't know what's real or fake, so please, also, help me with value of something like this? Thanks SO much.

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Permalink Reply by J on July 17, 2014 at 12:09am
Hmmm not quite sure how to take that Lauri....

You can save the $15 bucks because the BITUSA has a PSA/Epperson Cert with it as I told you in my email.

All items have photo or video proof. As I was offering these with best intentions I can only say that maybe
your friend has little to no knowledge of a Springsteen graph.

i would also recommend what Bruce Juice said about getting an Epperson opinion however the BITUSA which you originally stated you wanted has an Epperson certificate of authenticity. Which I had also stated in my email.

I would never sell a fake intentionally and don't like it implied.

As you had already sent me an email Lauri saying you weren't interested days ago.... I don't see the need to post the doubts by your friend on the forum (could of emailed me) or continue this thread.

Thanks and all the best
(Disappointed)

Jarrod
Permalink Reply by Lori T on July 17, 2014 at 12:22am

I said no offense, Jarrod, and only gave openly the opinion of one person, that's why I hoped for more opinions here. I told you I was going to ask for opinions and you said that was fine. I was surprised no one chimed in on this thread, because lots of people did on my other Bruce I asked about. Also, I think my friend was more worried about the second email you sent me asking me not to show those to anyone, it screamed "scam" to him, he said. His opinion, not mine as I am new to this. He owns 12 Springsteens of his own and is a collector with a massive auto collection, and that's just one opinion. I told you I was going to ask him and that's what he said. I would not continue this discussion here if I thought he was 100% correct! I think they look pretty good to my untrained eye. It's why I'm here asking questions and being careful. I'm not implying anything. I didn't come here to argue with you, either. If no one else wants to give me their opinions on these, end of subject and best of luck to you. I was nice to you when I turned you down and only replied here because there was finally a response here. 

Permalink Reply by J on July 17, 2014 at 12:37am
You're not telling the full story Lori. I sent you items that a friend of mine has who is a collector of Springsteen. As they are NOT mine I asked that u not post HIS items that I do not own in fairness to my friend and to discuss if you were interested.

As for seeking opinions I encourage it however I was trying to help you and I would expect that you would tell me your friend had issues and that it SCREAMS of fake.

You're friend no offense obviously has no idea....people on this forum don't normally offer there help to sell fakes to them.

I won't be responding to this thread and expect others not to as well.
Permalink Reply by Lori T on July 17, 2014 at 12:55am

Just being careful, Jarrod. According to my friend, who belongs to way more sites like this than i do, some people actually DO email newbies on the side on these sites, sometimes, and do just that. Again, I'm not saying you were at all, I'm just saying I'm trying to be careful. 

When you wrote me this:

Hey Lauri,

Just wanted to let you know that the guy I deal with has these available....he ain't cheap but is THE best on Springsteen graphs bar none.

Anyways I can talk him down on price but let me know what you think.

1&2 are albums 
3 is a single album
4 baseball
5 photo

Please don't share these as they aren't mine....if your interested in any of them we can talk first.

Thanks
Jarrod

I forwarded it to my friend who felt those were probably fakes.

My friend's response to me was:

Anytime you hear "don't show anyone" or "don't tell anyone" write SCAM down with his name. 

His opinion is the only one I got until Brucejuice responded here. If you are friends with many people here, and you ask them not to respond, perhaps then they won't. Maybe several of you stick together, I have no idea. I am new here. If you weren't prepared for a possible negative opinion, then you shouldn't have given me permission to ask others. I have been nice and said I didn't accuse you of offering fakes or anything like that, I gave one person's opinion and other than yours, that's the only opinion I have thus far. Brucejuice suggests you give better scans of some of those, does that offend you? 

Permalink Reply by J on July 17, 2014 at 1:04am
No Lori it doesn't offend me scanning items.

1. Your implications
2. Your tone
3. The fact I told you to discuss it in my email
4. You didnt make an offer and said you'd pass days ago
5. I was trying to help you
6. The fact I stated I did not wish for this thread to continue
7. The Dual Certs on the item you initially enquired about
8. You could of said your friends doubts in an email but instead posted on the forum
9. The fact you put up emails that were sent in good faith should I post how you wasted my time....
10. The fact your friend obviously for a serious collector has no idea
11. I've had several offers since I offered you the opportunity to have a look at my items

I won't keep going......

All offended me. So Lori as I tried to help you with best intentions I am not looking for a response posted after this from you. I would prefer the thread CLOSED!
Permalink Reply by Lori T on July 17, 2014 at 1:20am

You contacted me, Jarrod, perhaps wasting MY time? You remind me of the ebay guy on the other thread who got so offended when I Iasked him questions...check that out and see how people from here responded over there. My tone was nice to you, as nice as could be. I put your email here only after you openly implied to me I was not telling the whole story, so I told the whole story. Feel free to post any of our messages or emails, I have nothing to hide. You never sent me copies of any certs, either.

I am sure you do want this thread closed because IF you are messaging newbies on the side and IF they are fakes, perhaps the administrators of this site should check into you. If you have nothing to hide, then I would think you might not be so defensive right now!

Like I said, not here to argue. You shouldn't have offered up anything for sale to me if you couldn't take any possible doubts or questions. Feel free to stop responding like you have twice said you were going to do. 

Permalink Reply by J on July 17, 2014 at 1:28am
People like you should not be on this site.

I can handle people's opinions you however and your friend who sound amateurish at best YOU should steer clear of reputable people on reputable sites throwing around your amateurish friends opinion and then trying to cast doubt on my reputation on here.

I want this thread closed as YOU keep trying to bad mouth me when I was trying to help you......
As to selling fakes on the side a person on this site for a number of years.....my photo....my email....my location are all known to users on here
Highly offended and I for one won't offer you and encourage others not to help you in any way shape or form.

Twice I asked for you to close the thread twice you didnt listen lets hope 3rd times a charm. Close this thread
Permalink Reply by Lori T on July 17, 2014 at 1:39am

Yes, you sound just like the EBay guy on the other thread.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/is-this-bruce-spring...

People shouldn't be here if they ask questions about authenticity? I thought that's what this place was for? I never bad mouthed you and said I wasn't trying to argue with you. If you have nothing to hide, then don't worry, I'm just a naive newbie!

Could Dom Vito Castiglione or Rich or any administrators or even roger epperson possibly chime in here?

Permalink Reply by J on July 17, 2014 at 1:48am
I've already contacted one Lori I don't know what part of dont continue this thread you don't understand!!
Permalink Reply by Lori T on July 17, 2014 at 1:54am

Well, that's good then, because I would love for an administrator to see the things you sent me on the side in your emails and to read this whole thread. And you are welcome to stop posting here any time, and then it won't continue. 

Permalink Reply by Lori T on July 17, 2014 at 3:42am

I have spoken briefly to Wascher and want to show one more thing to Steve then I will say no more until advised by him.

Here are Links to the ones Jarrod asked me "not to show anyone", which made me suspicious and my friend suspicious, I think anyone here would have to question this, no? 

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Permalink Reply by Lori T on July 17, 2014 at 3:43am

and a few more.

thanks again...will wait for Steve now

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