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BEATLES 1967 AUTOGRAPHS?

This part set is from an UK auction and described as a 1967 set, signed during the Sgt. Pepper sessions.

To me, they look like an earlier period set, and the McCartney looks a bit strange (like later Post-Beatles sets). Any opinions?

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Permalink Reply by Paul on April 30, 2015 at 12:06pm

What date is the auction on?

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Permalink Reply by Beatleworld on May 3, 2015 at 11:53am

The only bad thing about these is that there is no Ringo !!!!

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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on May 7, 2015 at 5:09am

Just went for £3,750 before buyers premium. Not such a high price given there was copyright on the photos.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on May 7, 2015 at 5:13am

Sold done and dusted.

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Permalink Reply by Full Time Flipper on May 8, 2015 at 11:05am

should be on e bay for triple that pretty soon..usual suspects usual overblown stories... overblown prices

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Permalink Reply by Dan Moss on July 28, 2015 at 12:18pm

Hi folks, I've just joined the forum and I noticed this thread. I was the guy who bought them, and I've had them checked out by a couple of experts here in the UK. They're definitely OK. I also spoke to Mark Lewisohn, the author of the definitive Beatles history, and he saw no problems with them or the story attached. I think the reason they went relatively cheaply was that they were sold through a small provincial auctioneer, and the auction was held on the day of the British general election, so a lot of people missed it. Anyway, it's good to be here!

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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on July 28, 2015 at 9:38pm

Hi Dan and welcome, this was the kind of lot that I like - something more than a set of signatures on a page with no story other than that they were obtained at this or that theatre on this or that date.

In the end, I don't think there was much disagreement about the authenticity of the signatures but which experts did you speak to? With all due respect to Mark, he is not an autograph expert. Given his incredible Beatles knowledge I guess he may have confirmed that the recipient of the autographs was at the studio that day or at least that they were recording the track the recipient mentioned.

As to the Price, I think you must have got a pretty good deal - in fact I said earlier on in the thread that a figure of less than £4k would surprise me and it was £250 under. If you can sell the use of the photos in any way it will be a real bargain. I know a Beatles photographer who got £200 upwards for every shot flashed up for a second during a BBC rock & pop documentary. I'm not sure your photos are on a par with those I'm talking about (also Sgt. P sessions) but there may be some potential.

I don't think either the nature of the auction house or the date of the auction played a role in the price the lot reached. Anything on thesaleroom.com is seen across the globe and you rarely see things slip through unnoticed. The fact that the auction house was in the sticks and that there was a British election on that date would have been of zero interest to most potential bidders. Also the simple fact that the piece attracted three pages of comment here suggests that it was very well noticed.

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Permalink Reply by Dan Moss on July 29, 2015 at 5:18am

Thanks for your response, Pug! I asked a couple of people I know whose opinions I trust, one of them was Stephen Maycock who runs the music memorabilia department at Bonhams. Lewisohn was really just to get his opinion on the story. As it happens, the seller included a piece of paper with his name and address, so I've been wondering whether I should pay him a visit to find out more.

By the way, I'm a dealer, so if anyone wants to make a reasonable offer for them... Otherwise I'll hang on to them for a while...