Are IPhone 7 Autographs Considered Real Autographs????

I recently seen a person get an autograph from NHRA legend John Force at The World Of Wheels in Chicago. He had John sign a photo of them that he just taken of both them together on his IPhone. John didn't know how to sign it, but the guy explained how easy it was to sign. Afterward I ask him how to do it.

He explained, all you do is choose a photo in your photo library. Tape on where you see 3 small lines that has circles on them. Next, Tape on the circle that has 3 dots in it, Tape on the tool box that says "Markup" underneath. Now you can set what color and the width of the autograph that you what on your photo.

So, a couple of days ago, I met The Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan and I asked her to sign the IPhone photo that I had of us when I met her a few months pier. The nice person that she is, she was glad to sign with the soft rubber tipped pen that I gave her. I think wanted to sign because she admitted to me that she had never seen that done before.

Not 5 minutes later, I met The Illinois Governor Bruce Rauner, I asked him to do the same, and he was pleased to sign. He to admitted he never seen this before. I think both photos came out rather nice!!!!!

But my question is, in the real world of collecting autographs, Is this considered a real autograph?  

I myself am a Picture Proof Photo Autograph collector (Autographs that I take a picture of the person signing the item). I have heard from many collectors that have impressed to me that they don't need to take a photo of the celebrity signing for authenticity because the autograph they received would be going in their own collection which they will never sell it. The only reason I don't take a photo of a person signing an autograph is when that person is signing a photo that I have taken of us together pier to meeting him again and I would not be selling it in the future either. Who would buy it???

 I personally like it and can see the possibilities of the IPhone autographs becoming popular because now you can meet a celebrity, take a selfie with him, and now have him autograph it.

Or you can go to an sports event with many photos on your phone of all the stars that will be there, and now you don't even have to carry a big notebook of photos. You don't even have to carry a pen. You can just have them sign with their finger!!!! (but then authenticators would now have to know the loops and hoops of an hand written and an finger written autograph) 

And what would be the difference of selling/buying an mail in autograph from an IPhone autograph? People sell reprints of autographs all the time.

I would like to hear you thoughts of The IPhone autographs!!!!

Thank You Very Much!!!!!    

FRED   (Picture Proof Autographs)


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You're right. That's not "exact" proof at all.

Pictures of people signing are cool, but prove nothing beyond maybe the seller was there and sees people sign autographs regularly.

The biggest forger on eBay back in the OG eBay days (I won't say a username here, but it was the biggest) was a guy who used to use "photos with" celebs in every listing. It's definitely convincing to prove experience, but obviously proves nothing at all in terms of the actual authenticity of the items. Some of the biggest "photo with" collectors in history are also some of the most infamous forgers in history. It's awful.

One of the things I dislike the most is when sellers use Exact Proof in their title and it's just a generic signing photo. Doing that just sort of saturates and de-values the marketplace and makes truly Exact Proof more difficult to locate in searches.

I never said all Picture Proof Autographs are legit. There are always some scum bagsBut some collectors say it is no proof at all.

I think it is. It gives the buyer a chance to look at the P.P.P. closely and judge for himself, 1) Is the face of the person sign visible? 2) Is the item being sold visible? 3) What color is the pen and marker is being used? 4) Is the signature written in the same way that is on the item? 5) Is the signature written in the same location on the item that is being sold. 6) Does the P.P.P. also come with the Negative of the photo? (I try to always use a 35mm camera so I can cut and tape the negative to the back of the photo)

These are all forms of proof that you can look at from a Picture Proof Autographs that you don't get from a autograph being sold without any proof and having just to trust your dealer

What's PPP?
P.P.P.- Picture Proof Photo

I'm confused - is Picture Proof Autographs a business or a personal collection? 

Picture Proof Autographs are autographs that are also supplied with a photo of the person signing the item.
And is also the nick name I call myself due to the fact that my collection has over 5000 Picture Proof Autographs in it

Is your collection online for viewing?

Yes Mr Steffman, yes can view over 50% of my collection by going to my photo albums on this site, or for a better view, just tape on the lick below which we bring you to my Flickr account

There is a large distinction between a forgery, a preprint and a reprint. Now you are talking about forgeries. Let say the wife in your example buys a "P.P.P." reprint? I do not agree with your broad statement about seller/dealers. I have hope I have enough skills gathered by now to have a pretty good idea who and who did not sign a vintage Gleason album page, or if it is a vintage, if the ink is old...

To me, digital autographs hold the same personal value that a physical autograph would. It's just a shame that they didn't sign in binary, but you could still convert it later.

When Augmented Reality becomes commonplace, it will be nice to hang these digital signatures on the wall in my office, without having to go through the hassle of printing them. I could imagine my entire office walls just being covered in binary representations of my digital autograph collection and me being a happy happy man.


Nice!!!!!! I like the Photo!!!!!



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