Death Profiteering: Fair or Foul? - Autograph Live2024-03-29T15:50:22Zhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/death-profiteering-fair-or-foul?commentId=3524372%3AComment%3A1018936&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWell I can't really fault a b…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-01-01:3524372:Comment:10212972017-01-01T21:33:59.582ZJames Stonehttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/JamesStone
<p>Well I can't really fault a buyer for wanting to own an autograph after the person passes. For one, there is a scarcity worry, that somehow they will all be purchased up. Which is usually ridiculous, but that is how people think. Another is it sparks a natural emotion in a person which is understandable. I will buy autographs and not open them until I have watched a persons movie or have read a book on them. I want to be really into whatever I am opening at that specific time otherwise it is…</p>
<p>Well I can't really fault a buyer for wanting to own an autograph after the person passes. For one, there is a scarcity worry, that somehow they will all be purchased up. Which is usually ridiculous, but that is how people think. Another is it sparks a natural emotion in a person which is understandable. I will buy autographs and not open them until I have watched a persons movie or have read a book on them. I want to be really into whatever I am opening at that specific time otherwise it is really not that important. I am not going to open a Carrie Fisher autograph when I am really obsessed with Star Trek at the moment. I am not going to open a John Lennon autograph when I am really into the Rolling Stones right now.</p> I think it is a double edged…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-01-01:3524372:Comment:10212852017-01-01T18:13:22.558ZMike Phttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/MikeP
<p>I think it is a double edged sword to be honest. On one hand, you have a "collector" who didn't bother owning the person's autograph until they passed away; then there is the "dealer" who decides to utilize death as an opportunity for profit- both are at a fault in my opinion. If you were really a fan or really desired the person's autograph, why did you wait until the death of said individual?</p>
<p>However, nothing is more annoying than committing to purchase/pay for an autograph on an…</p>
<p>I think it is a double edged sword to be honest. On one hand, you have a "collector" who didn't bother owning the person's autograph until they passed away; then there is the "dealer" who decides to utilize death as an opportunity for profit- both are at a fault in my opinion. If you were really a fan or really desired the person's autograph, why did you wait until the death of said individual?</p>
<p>However, nothing is more annoying than committing to purchase/pay for an autograph on an auction site like eBay and have that dealer cancel the sale and relist it for a higher price due to the death of that celebrity. </p> I agree with everything said…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-01-01:3524372:Comment:10212822017-01-01T17:45:14.409ZPete Benduhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/PeteChuka
<p>I agree with everything said above, now is not the time to buy a Carrie Fisher autograph, but not for the reasons many think. Yes, Carrie signed at shows and at book signings, and there are lots of real items out there. Her passing has all the TTM secretarial autographs hitting the market with a vengeance. I have watched authentic pieces sell for $30 and complete fakes sell for $300 in the past couple of days, and it all seems to be the same 10-20 photos.</p>
<p>There are plenty of rare and…</p>
<p>I agree with everything said above, now is not the time to buy a Carrie Fisher autograph, but not for the reasons many think. Yes, Carrie signed at shows and at book signings, and there are lots of real items out there. Her passing has all the TTM secretarial autographs hitting the market with a vengeance. I have watched authentic pieces sell for $30 and complete fakes sell for $300 in the past couple of days, and it all seems to be the same 10-20 photos.</p>
<p>There are plenty of rare and different images really signed by Carrie that used to sell for $300-$500, when she was alive. The big question now is, when will these emotional buyers realize that what they paid a fortune for, is fake? </p>
<p>What will those rare images sell for in the future?</p> Right, buyers shouldn't act o…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-01-01:3524372:Comment:10210692017-01-01T17:07:46.199ZJames Stonehttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/JamesStone
<p>Right, buyers shouldn't act on emotion. Ed Rendell, a famous autograph collector wrote in his book NEVER BUY right after someone has passed. He used Princess Diana as an example of just how much things can skyrocket. Carrie's prices will come back down, they won't return to when she was alive, but people are getting ripped off at these levels.</p>
<p>I don't necessarily think it is morally right to profit off of someone's death. But I also feel that you can't mix morality with business (most…</p>
<p>Right, buyers shouldn't act on emotion. Ed Rendell, a famous autograph collector wrote in his book NEVER BUY right after someone has passed. He used Princess Diana as an example of just how much things can skyrocket. Carrie's prices will come back down, they won't return to when she was alive, but people are getting ripped off at these levels.</p>
<p>I don't necessarily think it is morally right to profit off of someone's death. But I also feel that you can't mix morality with business (most of the time), I mean if we did that, morally there are tons of other things far more morally wrong than autograph prices.</p> I can understand your argumen…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-01-01:3524372:Comment:10210662017-01-01T16:44:10.675ZAdam Halloranhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/AdamHalloran
I can understand your argument completely, while I may not agree with it too. Buyers should be less emotional when buying, especially right after a death. Someone like Carrie Fisher signed thousands of autographs, so the inflation of her value is insane comparable with what is out there.<br />
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That is the dealers trying to make money off sentimental value, which while fair because no one HAS to buy...It is a bit grimy.<br />
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As I said though, it is the nature of the business. As you said, some of these…
I can understand your argument completely, while I may not agree with it too. Buyers should be less emotional when buying, especially right after a death. Someone like Carrie Fisher signed thousands of autographs, so the inflation of her value is insane comparable with what is out there.<br />
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That is the dealers trying to make money off sentimental value, which while fair because no one HAS to buy...It is a bit grimy.<br />
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As I said though, it is the nature of the business. As you said, some of these people are already charging their fans crazy prices for something that only took 2 seconds to sign. It is all about money. 100% fair. Business is Busine…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-01-01:3524372:Comment:10212732017-01-01T15:52:27.375ZJames Stonehttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/JamesStone
<p>100% fair. Business is Business. Same goes for Harrison Ford (who has made millions) charging his fans $1000 for an autograph that takes him about 2 seconds to sign. It is worth what people are willing to pay, that is capitalism.</p>
<p>100% fair. Business is Business. Same goes for Harrison Ford (who has made millions) charging his fans $1000 for an autograph that takes him about 2 seconds to sign. It is worth what people are willing to pay, that is capitalism.</p> This is nothing new. But, now…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2016-12-30:3524372:Comment:10201482016-12-30T18:56:32.158ZJoe W.https://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/JoeWasson
<p>This is nothing new. But, now the Internet and sights like eBay has enabled it to be instantaneous and visible. Seen this happen many times before and the bigger name of the star combined with the circumstances of their death, the higher the curve. By the same token, everyone should be fully aware by now that prices and demand will subside. Emotional responses are usually never cost effective.</p>
<p>This is nothing new. But, now the Internet and sights like eBay has enabled it to be instantaneous and visible. Seen this happen many times before and the bigger name of the star combined with the circumstances of their death, the higher the curve. By the same token, everyone should be fully aware by now that prices and demand will subside. Emotional responses are usually never cost effective.</p> Michael jackson was the bigge…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2016-12-30:3524372:Comment:10202352016-12-30T18:50:00.846ZPaulhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/paul332
Michael jackson was the biggest artist to die,that caused ebay to go nuts.
Michael jackson was the biggest artist to die,that caused ebay to go nuts. Sadly, I am not surprised.tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2016-12-30:3524372:Comment:10201442016-12-30T18:44:37.233ZAdam Halloranhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/AdamHalloran
Sadly, I am not surprised.
Sadly, I am not surprised. Just got this in my inbox. Ke…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2016-12-30:3524372:Comment:10202962016-12-30T17:49:59.080ZRichhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Rich1
<p>Just got this in my inbox. Keep it classy, Hollywood Show.</p>
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