eBay tells me...."They allow forgeries" I'm NOT JOKING GUYS. - Autograph Live2024-03-19T13:18:15Zhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/ebay-tells-me-they-allow-forgeries-i-m-not-joking-guys?id=3524372%3ATopic%3A666014&feed=yes&xn_auth=noReminds me of the account of…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2014-12-18:3524372:Comment:6984972014-12-18T23:39:39.262Zburneggrollhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/burneggroll
<p>Reminds me of the account of Anastasia surviving the execution of Russia's royal family in 1918. The 'proof' documents included lengthy details of the weather, terrain, buildings, furnishings and what the other victims were wearing. But, no witnesses were identified.</p>
<p>Reminds me of the account of Anastasia surviving the execution of Russia's royal family in 1918. The 'proof' documents included lengthy details of the weather, terrain, buildings, furnishings and what the other victims were wearing. But, no witnesses were identified.</p> Craigslist - Check
Cheap MDF…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2014-12-09:3524372:Comment:6906172014-12-09T03:41:35.769ZSteve Zarellihttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/MrZipper
Craigslist - Check<br />
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Cheap MDF plaque - check<br />
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Worthless COA - check<br />
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Long and unnecessary biography of alleged signer - check<br />
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How many more red flags do you need?<br />
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And why is it the lowlife fake selling slugs often add a long biography to the listing? It's like a page from the forgery seller's handbook. Is it supposed to make the listing appear more authoritative and credible?
Craigslist - Check<br />
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Cheap MDF plaque - check<br />
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Worthless COA - check<br />
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Long and unnecessary biography of alleged signer - check<br />
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How many more red flags do you need?<br />
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And why is it the lowlife fake selling slugs often add a long biography to the listing? It's like a page from the forgery seller's handbook. Is it supposed to make the listing appear more authoritative and credible? Hey I ran into this Sam Raybu…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2014-12-08:3524372:Comment:6905892014-12-08T21:05:45.660ZSam Iamhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/SamIam
Hey I ran into this Sam Rayburn/Bear character. He is selling in craigslist now.<br />
<a href="http://lexington.craigslist.org/clt/4739647832.html" target="_blank">http://lexington.craigslist.org/clt/4739647832.html</a><br />
eBay have banned him from selling autographs!!!!<br />
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I emailed him about how he can no longer list his fake autos on eBay and he replied this "Im still making money little pup i you have no clue about steath ebay members do you i have been selling right under your nose LOL"<br />
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And "I have…
Hey I ran into this Sam Rayburn/Bear character. He is selling in craigslist now.<br />
<a href="http://lexington.craigslist.org/clt/4739647832.html" target="_blank">http://lexington.craigslist.org/clt/4739647832.html</a><br />
eBay have banned him from selling autographs!!!!<br />
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I emailed him about how he can no longer list his fake autos on eBay and he replied this "Im still making money little pup i you have no clue about steath ebay members do you i have been selling right under your nose LOL"<br />
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And "I have other partners LOL" "All you see is plaques LOL you dont know about the others do you LOL poor little pup go play outside with that is if you have any friends LOL"<br />
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He has actually opened another 4 ebay accounts and listed all the old ali fakes he had before but each account had them pulled. He would open another after they were pulled<br />
I can't find if he ever had his own discussion but thought I would let everyone know here Did this Bear7171 guy ever ge…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2014-12-08:3524372:Comment:6904082014-12-08T21:00:42.793ZSam Iamhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/SamIam
Did this Bear7171 guy ever get his own discussion?
Did this Bear7171 guy ever get his own discussion? Thanks for the heads-up! Sorr…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2014-11-23:3524372:Comment:6819412014-11-23T01:40:47.065Zburneggrollhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/burneggroll
<strong>Thanks for the heads-up!</strong> Sorry about your typical eBay phone call result.<p><font color="red"><strong>Angry rhetoric:</strong> Proved what? How do you prove anything to a non-expert over the phone? </font></p>
<p>eBay ended the <a href="http://www.linns.com/news/stamp-market-insights/659/EBay-scraps-stamp-and-coin-review-programs-" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">review programs</a>. There are no collectible experts or authenticators employed by eBay.</p>
<p><strong>If you want…</strong></p>
<strong>Thanks for the heads-up!</strong> Sorry about your typical eBay phone call result.<p><font color="red"><strong>Angry rhetoric:</strong> Proved what? How do you prove anything to a non-expert over the phone? </font></p>
<p>eBay ended the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.linns.com/news/stamp-market-insights/659/EBay-scraps-stamp-and-coin-review-programs-" target="_blank">review programs</a>. There are no collectible experts or authenticators employed by eBay.</p>
<p><strong>If you want it ended</strong>, you are going to have to hit the fraudsters in the pocketbook. Buy the items. Insist on the best (expensive) shipping. Prove the offering is fraudulent. Refuse to pay.</p>
<p><strong>Before you do that:</strong> Be prepared to argue that your 'expert' is THE AUTHORITY. Make sure you completely understand the <strong><a rel="nofollow" href="http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html" target="_blank">eBay Guarantee</a></strong>. Have a complete understanding of your payment service's guarantees. <strong><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/Marketing/popup/UAeBay-outside" target="_blank">PayPal Guarantee is here</a></strong>. All the major credit cards have guarantees. Consider funding PayPal with a guaranteed credit card.</p>
<p>Do not expect law enforcement to help. See how the <strong><a rel="nofollow" href="http://pix11.com/2014/11/20/nj-prosecutor-used-false-document-to-sell-bogus-memorabilia/" target="_blank">New Jersey, Bergen County prosecutor sells fraudulent autographs</a></strong>.</p>
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<p> </p> It is surreal the amount of G…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2014-11-22:3524372:Comment:6816882014-11-22T01:06:25.725ZDom Vito Castiglionehttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/DomVitoCastiglione
<p>It is surreal the amount of GA forgeries Ebay keeps letting him get away with. I personally was on the phone for 15-20 mins with Ebay and said they understood everything I proved to them about that seller and assured me they were going to "have their fraud department look into it further." That was weeks ago.</p>
<p>Go to his ebay page and click 'Sports original autographs.' Now click 'completed auctions.' There will be 360 forgeries he has sold since I called up to talk with them. 349/360…</p>
<p>It is surreal the amount of GA forgeries Ebay keeps letting him get away with. I personally was on the phone for 15-20 mins with Ebay and said they understood everything I proved to them about that seller and assured me they were going to "have their fraud department look into it further." That was weeks ago.</p>
<p>Go to his ebay page and click 'Sports original autographs.' Now click 'completed auctions.' There will be 360 forgeries he has sold since I called up to talk with them. 349/360 of those auctions came with a GA COA. The others came from PAAS. </p> I mentioned those mini footba…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2014-11-22:3524372:Comment:6815282014-11-22T00:02:04.675ZStevehttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/SteveKahldon
I mentioned those mini footballs a few weeks ago, all of a sudden, a bunch of Barry Sanders mini footballs showed up. Of course, Schwartz who is Sanders agent, knows nothing about these. You would think they would file a lawsuit against those who sell the fake Sanders items.
I mentioned those mini footballs a few weeks ago, all of a sudden, a bunch of Barry Sanders mini footballs showed up. Of course, Schwartz who is Sanders agent, knows nothing about these. You would think they would file a lawsuit against those who sell the fake Sanders items. lol which one .... if you rea…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2014-11-21:3524372:Comment:6815202014-11-21T23:15:51.127Zwascherhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Wascher
<p>lol which one .... if you read this thread from start to finish so many people came in and left, I'm not sure who your talking about any more. I did laugh rereading it though---funny thread---and a mess to figure out whats going on and who's talking about who....</p>
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<p>lol which one .... if you read this thread from start to finish so many people came in and left, I'm not sure who your talking about any more. I did laugh rereading it though---funny thread---and a mess to figure out whats going on and who's talking about who....</p>
<p>-w</p> Take a look at the crap this…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2014-11-21:3524372:Comment:6815192014-11-21T22:55:03.638ZDom Vito Castiglionehttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/DomVitoCastiglione
<p>Take a look at the crap this seller has up now! all those mini footballs that come GA COA! Ebay is doing nothing about!!!!!</p>
<p>Take a look at the crap this seller has up now! all those mini footballs that come GA COA! Ebay is doing nothing about!!!!!</p> Wow, you hijacked your own th…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2014-10-31:3524372:Comment:6694762014-10-31T12:33:13.376Zburneggrollhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/burneggroll
<p>Wow, you hijacked your own thread; <strong>"eBay tells me...."They allow forgeries" I'm NOT JOKING GUYS." </strong> Glad you didn't miss my contribution about eBay. Thanks for recognizing that. Sorry about the rest of my post. That was just rambling. I did not want you to go all John Wayne against all forgeries. But, then you went to bad mouthing me anyway.</p>
<p>Back to topic. Yes, eBay allows "clearly indicated" forgeries. We need to convince eBay that ending review programs was a bad…</p>
<p>Wow, you hijacked your own thread; <strong>"eBay tells me...."They allow forgeries" I'm NOT JOKING GUYS." </strong> Glad you didn't miss my contribution about eBay. Thanks for recognizing that. Sorry about the rest of my post. That was just rambling. I did not want you to go all John Wayne against all forgeries. But, then you went to bad mouthing me anyway.</p>
<p>Back to topic. Yes, eBay allows "clearly indicated" forgeries. We need to convince eBay that ending review programs was a bad idea. Earlier this year, stamps and coins were the last <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.linns.com/news/stamp-market-insights/659/EBay-scraps-stamp-and-coin-review-programs-" target="_blank">review programs to be ended</a>.</p>
<p>And centering in on autographs. eBay used to maintain a <a rel="nofollow" href="http://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-Sports-Cards-Memorabilia/CSC-ACE-Added-to-Ebay-s-Banned-Authenticators-List/td-p/2919639" target="_blank">Banned Authenticators List</a>. Last updated in 2012, the list is no longer on eBay's site map.</p>
<p>In the past, eBay considered banning sports autographs. Instead, eBay bought PayPal and upgraded the buyer guarantees. <strong>IF</strong> you meet all the criteria and paid for a misrepresented forgery with PayPal, you can get all your money back (price + shipping) and the seller has to pay return costs. In some circumstances, if you promise to properly dispose of the forgery, you don't have to return it.</p>
<p>BTW - my field of forgeries is very narrow; 19th century Japanese stamps.</p>
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