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George & John signatures

On Ebay at a low price, any opinions?

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Permalink Reply by fab432 on July 18, 2017 at 11:41am
Interesting in a bad bad way. Perhaps a source of these manufactured fakes is close at hand.

Change the ink color use different parts of genuine signatures to create a new composite and see how many you can sell before anyone catches on.

This is looking like the tip of the iceberg.

I wonder if my John. Paul and Pete signed card with the exact same cut signatures that BallroomDays67 found is also part of this deception. If you saw mine in person you would be hard pressed to say it was not genuine.
Permalink Reply by Ryan on July 18, 2017 at 11:50am
I used to own that Feb 64 card with the John shown above. I couldn't get anyone other than PSA to certify it. I got rid of it because I couldn't keep it knowing the experts wouldn't touch it. Since then, there are quite a few sets like this one including a signed PPM and a Meet the Beatles LP. There appears to be a single source of all of these reproductions. I don't trust any COA other than Tracks or Caiazzo.
Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on July 18, 2017 at 11:56am

Wasn't it encapsulated by PSA?

Permalink Reply by Ryan on July 18, 2017 at 12:06pm
Yes. But it was sent in bulk by a semi known dealer who has had several questionable items deemed authentic by PSA (and now Beckett since it's the same guy).
Permalink Reply by Ryan on July 18, 2017 at 12:07pm
Here's the PPM
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Permalink Reply by Ryan on July 18, 2017 at 12:13pm

Here's the Meet

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on July 18, 2017 at 12:21pm
THAT ^ is why I will only buy Beatles items with only Caiazzo or Tracks...(Maybe Perry Cox)
Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on July 18, 2017 at 1:35pm

Do TPAs authenticate items that have already been encapsulated by another TPA?

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 18, 2017 at 12:06pm

Ryan,

Did the other authenticators say why they declined it? Do you have a copies of the Meet the Beatles and Please Please Me?

Permalink Reply by Ryan on July 18, 2017 at 12:09pm
No, they just said they couldn't write one for it. I later found out that they determined a new forger was in the mix
Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 18, 2017 at 12:23pm

How did you find that out?

Permalink Reply by Ryan on July 18, 2017 at 12:50pm
I am good at pestering. I couldn't figure out why the top guys had no interest in clearly beautiful items. He finally told me.

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