GHRR/Knaiz Auctions Signed Fedora Authentic? - Autograph Live2024-03-28T23:09:10Zhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/ghrr-knaiz-auctions-signed-fedora-authentic?commentId=3524372%3AComment%3A1631223&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noApologies. I should have sai…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2021-05-17:3524372:Comment:16315812021-05-17T11:08:46.626ZLizziehttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Lizzie
<p>Apologies. I should have said that the article and photo. from September 2009 are not very helpful. Most of the important info. is inside the hat (maker, size etc), which you cannot see. It is also assumed that the newspaper (competition) which supplied this fedora in 1991 had sourced a genuine one. </p>
<p>The TV programme (Antiques Roadshow) valued this at £25k at the time, but prices were crazy just after June 2009.</p>
<p>(The inside of the fedora may have been shown in the video,…</p>
<p>Apologies. I should have said that the article and photo. from September 2009 are not very helpful. Most of the important info. is inside the hat (maker, size etc), which you cannot see. It is also assumed that the newspaper (competition) which supplied this fedora in 1991 had sourced a genuine one. </p>
<p>The TV programme (Antiques Roadshow) valued this at £25k at the time, but prices were crazy just after June 2009.</p>
<p>(The inside of the fedora may have been shown in the video, which is no longer available). <a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8938361268?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8938361268?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a></p> They're thieves STEALING mone…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2021-05-16:3524372:Comment:16312232021-05-16T23:46:46.493ZSteve Cyrkin, Adminhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/SteveCyrkin
<p>They're thieves STEALING money. Knowingly selling forgeries is theft by fraud, a felony in many cases. </p>
<p>They're thieves STEALING money. Knowingly selling forgeries is theft by fraud, a felony in many cases. </p> cannot view the full photos o…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2021-05-16:3524372:Comment:16314032021-05-16T22:19:08.340ZJohn Kimballhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/JohnKimball
<p>cannot view the full photos of article as asks for subscription. can plz post photos ?</p>
<p>cannot view the full photos of article as asks for subscription. can plz post photos ?</p> Possibly this one, although s…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2021-05-16:3524372:Comment:16312192021-05-16T22:07:17.177ZLizziehttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Lizzie
<p>Possibly this one, although sadly I can't find the video of the programme. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/6203607/Hat-worn-by-Michael-Jackson-worth-25000-fan-told.html" target="_blank">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/6203607/Hat-worn-by-Michael-Jackson-worth-25000-fan-told.html</a></p>
<p>Possibly this one, although sadly I can't find the video of the programme. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/6203607/Hat-worn-by-Michael-Jackson-worth-25000-fan-told.html" target="_blank">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/6203607/Hat-worn-by-Michael-Jackson-worth-25000-fan-told.html</a></p> are there any real known fedo…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2021-05-16:3524372:Comment:16311422021-05-16T18:02:52.058ZJohn Kimballhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/JohnKimball
<p>are there any real known fedoras from the bad tour that can show? even if unsigned.</p>
<p>are there any real known fedoras from the bad tour that can show? even if unsigned.</p> There is another notably unsi…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2021-05-16:3524372:Comment:16313832021-05-16T17:31:23.083ZLizziehttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Lizzie
<p>There is another notably unsigned example- a 'Victory Tour' style black Fedora which MJ gifted to Dr Arnold Klein. MJ gave this with a handwritten note, but didn't write on the fedora. </p>
<p>(There is also an unsigned MJ fedora of this style in a major museum- the 'Smithsonian').</p>
<p><a href="https://nmaahc.si.edu/object/nmaahc_2009.42.2" target="_blank">https://nmaahc.si.edu/object/nmaahc_2009.42.2…</a></p>
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<p>There is another notably unsigned example- a 'Victory Tour' style black Fedora which MJ gifted to Dr Arnold Klein. MJ gave this with a handwritten note, but didn't write on the fedora. </p>
<p>(There is also an unsigned MJ fedora of this style in a major museum- the 'Smithsonian').</p>
<p><a href="https://nmaahc.si.edu/object/nmaahc_2009.42.2" target="_blank">https://nmaahc.si.edu/object/nmaahc_2009.42.2</a></p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8935701881?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8935701881?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a></p> Sure.
Julien's 2011 here (gl…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2021-05-16:3524372:Comment:16313822021-05-16T16:58:04.833ZLizziehttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Lizzie
<p>Sure. </p>
<p>Julien's 2011 here (gloves, white Fedora, Motown performance shirt). The shirt was mentioned in his court papers. :</p>
<p><a href="https://www.julienslive.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/26/lot/7501/MICHAEL-JACKSON-SMOOTH-CRIMINAL-FEDORA?url=%2Fm%2Fsearch%3Fkey%3Dwade%2Brobson" target="_blank">https://www.julienslive.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/26/lot/7501/MICHAEL-JACKSON-SMOOTH-CRIMINAL-FEDORA?url=%2Fm%2Fsearch%3Fkey%3Dwade%2Brobson…</a></p>
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<p>Sure. </p>
<p>Julien's 2011 here (gloves, white Fedora, Motown performance shirt). The shirt was mentioned in his court papers. :</p>
<p><a href="https://www.julienslive.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/26/lot/7501/MICHAEL-JACKSON-SMOOTH-CRIMINAL-FEDORA?url=%2Fm%2Fsearch%3Fkey%3Dwade%2Brobson" target="_blank">https://www.julienslive.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/26/lot/7501/MICHAEL-JACKSON-SMOOTH-CRIMINAL-FEDORA?url=%2Fm%2Fsearch%3Fkey%3Dwade%2Brobson</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.julienslive.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/30/lot/9560/MICHAEL-JACKSON-BAD-ERA-GLOVES?url=%2Fm%2Fsearch%3Fkey%3Dwade%2Brobson" target="_blank">https://www.julienslive.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/30/lot/9560/MICHAEL-JACKSON-BAD-ERA-GLOVES?url=%2Fm%2Fsearch%3Fkey%3Dwade%2Brobson</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.julienslive.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/26/lot/7449/MICHAEL-JACKSON-MOTOWN-PERFORMANCE-SHIRT?url=%2Fm%2Fview-auctions%2Finfo%2Fid%2F26" target="_blank">https://www.julienslive.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/26/lot/7449/MICHAEL-JACKSON-MOTOWN-PERFORMANCE-SHIRT?url=%2Fm%2Fview-auctions%2Finfo%2Fid%2F26</a></p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8935610901?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8935610901?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a></p> can show the signed tour prog…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2021-05-16:3524372:Comment:16312022021-05-16T15:00:08.278ZJohn Kimballhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/JohnKimball
<p>can show the signed tour programme?</p>
<p>can show the signed tour programme?</p> can show the items of fedora…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2021-05-16:3524372:Comment:16311302021-05-16T14:56:51.808ZJohn Kimballhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/JohnKimball
<p>can show the items of fedora etc that were unsigned? </p>
<p>can show the items of fedora etc that were unsigned? </p> You said it.
In essence thes…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2021-05-16:3524372:Comment:16313072021-05-16T14:30:35.740ZAman Alhamidhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/AmanAlhamid
<p>You said it.</p>
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<p>In essence these forgers are essentially 'printing money' by making these fakes.</p>
<p>You said it.</p>
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<p>In essence these forgers are essentially 'printing money' by making these fakes.</p>