Help authenticity of this signatures - Autograph Live2024-03-28T20:44:23Zhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/help-authenticity-of-this-signatures?commentId=3524372%3AComment%3A1753173&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noUpdate: seller plained the bo…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2022-05-30:3524372:Comment:17533622022-05-30T09:20:08.228ZGiankiss74https://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Giankiss74
<p>Update: seller plained the booklet corner. No rips or cuts..</p>
<p>Update: seller plained the booklet corner. No rips or cuts..</p> I am certainly not qualified…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2022-05-30:3524372:Comment:17532212022-05-30T05:17:21.951Za pug called evahttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/martinjohnlast
<p>I am certainly not qualified to opine on the autographs but I do wonder why anyone in their right mind would take a CHF 600+ hit on something like this. If they were willing to pay CHF 1,650 for the CD you would think they would do some research to see what kind of prices are being asked today. Even if absolutely desperate for cash I would ask for more than Euro 950 if I knew the autographs were genuine - in fact, a higher price might actually make others more willing to trust that the item…</p>
<p>I am certainly not qualified to opine on the autographs but I do wonder why anyone in their right mind would take a CHF 600+ hit on something like this. If they were willing to pay CHF 1,650 for the CD you would think they would do some research to see what kind of prices are being asked today. Even if absolutely desperate for cash I would ask for more than Euro 950 if I knew the autographs were genuine - in fact, a higher price might actually make others more willing to trust that the item is genuine.</p>
<p>I wonder if the autographs got turned down by an authenticator? The authenticator may not have known what they were doing of course. </p>
<p>Having said all of the above, not everyone is all that bothered about "maximising returns", especially if they know that others would get great enjoyment from whatever they are looking to sell. </p> My brain is spinning like a w…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2022-05-29:3524372:Comment:17531732022-05-29T11:02:53.061ZForgers Sumphttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/3os74ea2yhwzs
<p>My brain is spinning like a washing machine. For a moment I see it legit but a second later I think it's fake. Such a crazy thing! I'd say it is genuine, although I agree with everything that has been said here, regarding the framing, the "cut" or the asking price as well.</p>
<p>My brain is spinning like a washing machine. For a moment I see it legit but a second later I think it's fake. Such a crazy thing! I'd say it is genuine, although I agree with everything that has been said here, regarding the framing, the "cut" or the asking price as well.</p> It does maintain value, but I…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2022-05-29:3524372:Comment:17531022022-05-29T09:19:47.220ZStepeanuthttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Stepeanut
<p>It does maintain value, but I couldn’t tell you what a bargain price for something like this would be. (I am not a fan of Queen, so do not know that particular market.)</p>
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<p>This was likely once a very nice item, which IMO has been ruined by poor handling over the years. Again, my advice to the OP would be to buy it only at a relatively cheap price, and only if he can live with the damage. Even a fold — for the record, it still looks like a cut, to me — would constitute damage,…</p>
<p>It does maintain value, but I couldn’t tell you what a bargain price for something like this would be. (I am not a fan of Queen, so do not know that particular market.)</p>
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<p>This was likely once a very nice item, which IMO has been ruined by poor handling over the years. Again, my advice to the OP would be to buy it only at a relatively cheap price, and only if he can live with the damage. Even a fold — for the record, it still looks like a cut, to me — would constitute damage, and result in weird toning issues, as Eric points out. Personally, if I were in the market for a ‘forever piece’ from Queen, this wouldn’t be it.</p>
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<p>The subject of personal dedications is one that really deserves its own thread, but, as a book collector, I can tell you that that world is slowly coming back around to inscribed copies being a good thing, especially for deceased authors. Given that this Queen item originates from Montreux, it was possibly signed for an associate at Mountain Studios. If so, the dedication would <em>add</em> worth, for me, not take it away.</p>
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<p>I recently talked an acquaintance on other forum around from attempting to remove a dedication on a Bill Hicks autographed cassette he’d just paid £1,500 for. He then suggested cutting a piece from elsewhere on the cassette insert, to stick over the dedication. Again, I tried to persuade him that this is also an act of wilful destruction. Why on Earth anyone would consider such a thing is beyond me.</p> Above all get it out the fram…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2022-05-29:3524372:Comment:17531702022-05-29T09:02:44.807ZJimbohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Jimbo
<p>Above all get it out the frame and feel for the undulations from the pen to confirm it’s not a print. As it stands 950 Euro seems alarmingly cheap. <br/><br/></p>
<p>Hope it works out. </p>
<p>Above all get it out the frame and feel for the undulations from the pen to confirm it’s not a print. As it stands 950 Euro seems alarmingly cheap. <br/><br/></p>
<p>Hope it works out. </p> It also is rippled, perhaps d…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2022-05-29:3524372:Comment:17530142022-05-29T08:41:13.274ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p>It also is rippled, perhaps due to the lack of a mat, and quite toned yellow along the fold line. </p>
<p>It also is rippled, perhaps due to the lack of a mat, and quite toned yellow along the fold line. </p> Yup, and other "surprises" li…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2022-05-29:3524372:Comment:17530132022-05-29T08:36:12.146ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p>Yup, and other "surprises" like masking tape, glue or other weird stuff. This has no mat either.</p>
<p>Yup, and other "surprises" like masking tape, glue or other weird stuff. This has no mat either.</p> Oh yeah, if thats the case, i…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2022-05-29:3524372:Comment:17529542022-05-29T08:31:53.653ZJason Hhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/JasonH
<p>Oh yeah, if thats the case, it has to be proven its not ripped. You would want to see the whole item you are buying</p>
<p>Oh yeah, if thats the case, it has to be proven its not ripped. You would want to see the whole item you are buying</p> I agree with what both you an…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2022-05-29:3524372:Comment:17530982022-05-29T08:27:18.863ZJason Hhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/JasonH
<p>I agree with what both you and Eric are saying completely but would love to voice another side.. this item is something I would love as a bargain hunter. Context is taken away by cutting the name sure, but ive said before that I do buy cuts and this is a good example (even if just partially cut. Its still a cut).. authenticity aside, I would take this as a bargain because of lack of adequate storage, presentation, and of course, the cut. I can envision a good way to mat and frame this. If I…</p>
<p>I agree with what both you and Eric are saying completely but would love to voice another side.. this item is something I would love as a bargain hunter. Context is taken away by cutting the name sure, but ive said before that I do buy cuts and this is a good example (even if just partially cut. Its still a cut).. authenticity aside, I would take this as a bargain because of lack of adequate storage, presentation, and of course, the cut. I can envision a good way to mat and frame this. If I was inclined to spend the money needed for this, it would be very tempting. Ive said before how I have turned a corner and am completely against cutting items like this. But the damage is already done. its now something that can be used as a bargaining chip. Again authenticity aside. This still holds value. Its great that the cut is pointed out. Its always up to the buyer if they can live with the damage. Personally, i hate seeing other peoples names on items I own. I do have a few but the few I do have bugged me so much that I still had to buy a 2nd autograph without inscriptions just so I could mentally move on.</p>
<p>Just as how people were rubbing off the Polly signatures from the Gilmour cds, (which was just completely ridiculous and a slap in their faces) there are people who look at this hobby differently. One man's garbage is another man's treasure. So again, authenticity aside, i would love to own this if is proven authentic.</p> If he won't unframe it don't…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2022-05-29:3524372:Comment:17529532022-05-29T08:26:20.116ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p>If he won't unframe it don't buy it.</p>
<p>If he won't unframe it don't buy it.</p>