James Dean - Autograph Live2024-03-28T19:33:16Zhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/i-like-collecting?commentId=3524372%3AComment%3A1239573&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI always ask questions. Wheth…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-08-10:3524372:Comment:12395552018-08-10T18:17:15.577ZAbcdhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Micmmmm
<p>I always ask questions. Whether they can be answered is not the point. </p>
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<p>I always ask questions. Whether they can be answered is not the point. </p>
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<p></p> Re your last post Michael ("H…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-08-10:3524372:Comment:12395532018-08-10T18:14:11.573ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p>Re your last post Michael ("How I operate...") - I'll listen politely, while looking intently at the autograph, paper, ink etc. If I don't like what I see I can't imagine <em>anything</em> the seller could utter that would swerve me. "Oh, that? He signed it on my back in a crowd on a train" - "Wow! Really? Well, rushed/abbreviated IP, atypical, no - but thanks" (and that is assuming I even believe them)! </p>
<p>Re your last post Michael ("How I operate...") - I'll listen politely, while looking intently at the autograph, paper, ink etc. If I don't like what I see I can't imagine <em>anything</em> the seller could utter that would swerve me. "Oh, that? He signed it on my back in a crowd on a train" - "Wow! Really? Well, rushed/abbreviated IP, atypical, no - but thanks" (and that is assuming I even believe them)! </p> I think you have misread my m…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-08-10:3524372:Comment:12396402018-08-10T18:09:42.173ZAbcdhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Micmmmm
<p>I think you have misread my message. I didn't say experience isn't important. I was saying providence is also important. If you dontd ask for providence, then that's up to you. </p>
<p>I think you have misread my message. I didn't say experience isn't important. I was saying providence is also important. If you dontd ask for providence, then that's up to you. </p> As a dedication, inscription…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-08-10:3524372:Comment:12395512018-08-10T18:07:36.951ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p>As a dedication, inscription and date adds a third dimension and places an autograph on a timeline with a context, maybe even a location...if that is considered part of the provenance ("it" is physical, unlike a story) I am in full agreement as it helps to establish the authenticity and then some. +1 Well said, Scott.</p>
<p>As a dedication, inscription and date adds a third dimension and places an autograph on a timeline with a context, maybe even a location...if that is considered part of the provenance ("it" is physical, unlike a story) I am in full agreement as it helps to establish the authenticity and then some. +1 Well said, Scott.</p> This is how I operate. I ask…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-08-10:3524372:Comment:12397732018-08-10T18:05:47.871ZAbcdhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Micmmmm
<p>This is how I operate. I ask a question and then, depending on the answer, I ask further questions. If the seller is a blogger, they will trip themselves up. Don't get me wrong, this is in addition to my own research etc.</p>
<p>This is how I operate. I ask a question and then, depending on the answer, I ask further questions. If the seller is a blogger, they will trip themselves up. Don't get me wrong, this is in addition to my own research etc.</p> Great reply, Scott.tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-08-10:3524372:Comment:12397712018-08-10T18:05:44.363ZSteve Cyrkin, Adminhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/SteveCyrkin
<p>Great reply, Scott.</p>
<p>Great reply, Scott.</p> Agreed Michael, this is preci…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-08-10:3524372:Comment:12395502018-08-10T18:01:54.900ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p>Agreed Michael, this is <em>precisely</em> why I am concerned about people placing too much reliance on shall we say "stories and stickers" instead of learning the signing habits and signature(s) of the desired subject. </p>
<p>Agreed Michael, this is <em>precisely</em> why I am concerned about people placing too much reliance on shall we say "stories and stickers" instead of learning the signing habits and signature(s) of the desired subject. </p> Provenance is a wonderful thi…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-08-10:3524372:Comment:12396372018-08-10T18:00:00.393ZScott Paulhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/ScottPaul
<p>Provenance is a wonderful thing and I am all in favor of it but I dare say the vast majority of autographs for sale today have none. You need to know the signature, the style, the ink and paper. The question needs to be what is provenance? The best I suppose would be clear uninterrupted video of a person signing a specific item. The next a photograph of the singer holding up the autographed item. Taking checks, documents and autograph letters out of the mix a cut can be very hard to…</p>
<p>Provenance is a wonderful thing and I am all in favor of it but I dare say the vast majority of autographs for sale today have none. You need to know the signature, the style, the ink and paper. The question needs to be what is provenance? The best I suppose would be clear uninterrupted video of a person signing a specific item. The next a photograph of the singer holding up the autographed item. Taking checks, documents and autograph letters out of the mix a cut can be very hard to determine provenance. An inscribed item is easier and helps but only if the signature looks good. I love to buy directly from original owners if possible and have their story behind the autograph. This is for general interest and gives a history but really does not prove the signature. I personally believe it is good to keep all receipts from autograph sales etc. and try to learn who the original person was. We all have different comfort levels in collecting. When I started collecting seriously in the early 1970s it was mainly historical autographs. There are very few Ulysses S. Grant cuts that have much provenance to them. Gets harder the further back you go so you have to rely on the signature itself and paper etc. So I agree about provenance but suppose I might disagree about the definition of it.</p> I am fully aware that Elvis d…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-08-10:3524372:Comment:12397702018-08-10T17:56:53.917ZAbcdhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Micmmmm
<p>I am fully aware that Elvis did not sign all his cheques; however, not everyone is as experienced as you and me. </p>
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<p>I am fully aware that Elvis did not sign all his cheques; however, not everyone is as experienced as you and me. </p>
<p></p> RE provenance, look at those…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-08-10:3524372:Comment:12396322018-08-10T17:49:36.575ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p>RE provenance, look at those "Elvis" checks a while back - all the "providence" you'd want and sold by Graceland to boot - and <em>still</em> not real. Education and experience are the only key.</p>
<p>RE provenance, look at those "Elvis" checks a while back - all the "providence" you'd want and sold by Graceland to boot - and <em>still</em> not real. Education and experience are the only key.</p>