JSA and PSA - what has happened? - Autograph Live2024-03-29T01:06:39Zhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/jsa-and-psa-what-has-happened?commentId=3524372%3AComment%3A1145314&feed=yes&xn_auth=nothis is a great thread and as…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-12-08:3524372:Comment:11453142017-12-08T04:29:11.504Zgoodcathttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/goodcat53
<p>this is a great thread and as a new guy to buying sigs, I have already noticed too many discrepencies that make me nervous.</p>
<p>But it does make me glad I found this site and can get several eyes on an item before purchasing to ease my weary mind</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>this is a great thread and as a new guy to buying sigs, I have already noticed too many discrepencies that make me nervous.</p>
<p>But it does make me glad I found this site and can get several eyes on an item before purchasing to ease my weary mind</p>
<p>Cheers</p> It was slabbed in 2013, so it…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-10-05:3524372:Comment:11235032017-10-05T21:24:49.747ZBallroomDays67https://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/BallroomDays67
It was slabbed in 2013, so it couldn't have been authenticated by Beckett.
It was slabbed in 2013, so it couldn't have been authenticated by Beckett. Most likely. But, I’m not…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-10-05:3524372:Comment:11233232017-10-05T20:29:40.240Zkevin conwayhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/kevinconway924
<p><span>Most likely. But, I’m not even sure PSA (and certainly JSA) would pass this . Unless as stressed before, it was from an "inside player"</span>..<span><br></br> <br></br> <span>Think about this. When Grad goes on Pawn Stars and tells Rick his Star Wars signed poster is worth $150,000 based on signature rarity, now you have the "Conflict of interest" issue that has contaminated the hobby. Such as, what will be Grad's motivation to REJECT ANY other Star Wars signed posters that are…</span></span></p>
<p><span>Most likely. But, I’m not even sure PSA (and certainly JSA) would pass this . Unless as stressed before, it was from an "inside player"</span>..<span><br/> <br/> <span>Think about this. When Grad goes on Pawn Stars and tells Rick his Star Wars signed poster is worth $150,000 based on signature rarity, now you have the "Conflict of interest" issue that has contaminated the hobby. Such as, what will be Grad's motivation to REJECT ANY other Star Wars signed posters that are submitted to PSA or Becketts and deem his "one of a kind" claim and already Ludicrous value from plummeting..? <br/> <br/> i.e. these “inside players” that are Dealing and/or SELLING the same items they are authenticating is an invitation for dishonest subjectivity to put it mildly..</span></span></p>
<p><br/>I just had another long time collector tell me this is exactly why he Also is getting out of autographs after decades of collecting... </p>
<p></p> Beckett passes just as many h…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-10-05:3524372:Comment:11234942017-10-05T18:55:23.285ZRick Meyerhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/RickMeyer
Beckett passes just as many horrible sigs as PSA or JSA.
Beckett passes just as many horrible sigs as PSA or JSA. it was just a "Cannot Make an…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-10-05:3524372:Comment:11233192017-10-05T18:40:54.571Zkevin conwayhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/kevinconway924
<p>it was just a "Cannot Make an Opinion" letter. </p>
<p>it was just a "Cannot Make an Opinion" letter. </p> Is there any way you can post…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-10-05:3524372:Comment:11234122017-10-05T18:22:27.218ZJason Pouloshttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/JasonPoulos
Is there any way you can post a picture of the letter you got from JSA?<br />
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I browsed through all of these posts and didn't see where it had been posted.
Is there any way you can post a picture of the letter you got from JSA?<br />
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I browsed through all of these posts and didn't see where it had been posted. That odd explanation might be…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-10-05:3524372:Comment:11232232017-10-05T18:19:07.591Zkevin conwayhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/kevinconway924
<p>That odd explanation might be more bizarre then the Beckett "Authentication" itself... :)</p>
<p>That odd explanation might be more bizarre then the Beckett "Authentication" itself... :)</p> for the record, BAS did not s…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-10-05:3524372:Comment:11234092017-10-05T18:02:37.400ZJason Charnickhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/JasonCharnick
for the record, BAS did not specifically authenticate this... it's just a regular BGS ungraded slab. Leaf's Executive Collection is just a program where an owner of a previously authenticated item can have it placed into a "1/1" card by the company for a fee, who then contracts with BGS to have them slabbed for protection.…<br></br>
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for the record, BAS did not specifically authenticate this... it's just a regular BGS ungraded slab. Leaf's Executive Collection is just a program where an owner of a previously authenticated item can have it placed into a "1/1" card by the company for a fee, who then contracts with BGS to have them slabbed for protection.<br/>
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<a rel="nofollow" href="http://leaftradingcards.com/leaf-cut-signature-executive-collection/" target="_blank">http://leaftradingcards.com/leaf-cut-signature-executive-collection/</a><br/>
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It "might" have been BAS authenticated, no real way to know unless Leaf keeps the TPA number on file, I don't know if they do. But Leaf does state that they will not slab anything without a major TPA on it. From the above web site:<br />
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"In order to qualify to be custom made into a Leaf Cut Signature Executive Collection Cut Signature Card, your item must be authenticated by PSA/DNA, BECKETT Authentication or James Spence Authentication (JSA) and individually certified with the certification sticker still intact. Auction letters or JSA Stamp of Approval will NOT be accepted as proof of authenticity. If your item is not previously authenticated by PSA/DNA, BECKETT Authentication or JSA, LEAF can process the authentication for you by submitting to BECKETT Authentication. Pricing for authentication is determined by BECKETT fee structures. All terms and conditions can be found in the documents above. If you are unable to access the Internet or to inquire about quantity authentication discounts, please contact a LEAF representative." u missed the lovely steve gra…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-10-05:3524372:Comment:11233132017-10-05T17:34:03.458Zmarc ehttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/johnshaw
<p>u missed the lovely steve gradd facebook posts telling people not to rush to buy tom petty autographs now as there are to many fakes unless ofcourse the have a beckett coa on them.lol</p>
<p>u missed the lovely steve gradd facebook posts telling people not to rush to buy tom petty autographs now as there are to many fakes unless ofcourse the have a beckett coa on them.lol</p> Here you go. Case in point.J…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-10-05:3524372:Comment:11232182017-10-05T15:05:32.915Zkevin conwayhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/kevinconway924
<p>Here you go. Case in point.<br></br><br></br>JFK Signature? Nice Try!<br></br><br></br>How could this garbage get Beckett certified, ...UNless within the "Good ole boy network"?<br></br><br></br>This absurdly indecipherable unidentifiable nonsense would NEVER get certified by an "outside" dealer or collector. </p>
<p><br></br>Mind boggling to say the least ! Autograph collecting as we once knew it took a nose dive in te late 1990s after the eBay forgery market prospered.., Now with the "questionable"…</p>
<p>Here you go. Case in point.<br/><br/>JFK Signature? Nice Try!<br/><br/>How could this garbage get Beckett certified, ...UNless within the "Good ole boy network"?<br/><br/>This absurdly indecipherable unidentifiable nonsense would NEVER get certified by an "outside" dealer or collector. </p>
<p><br/>Mind boggling to say the least ! Autograph collecting as we once knew it took a nose dive in te late 1990s after the eBay forgery market prospered.., Now with the "questionable" authentication we see like this, who knows what will happen to the hobby in the next couple years...<br/><br/><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54776663?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54776663?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-left"/></a></p>