I don't see any reason she wouldn't sell the poster without the album as well... She has other cheaper items for sale in her store like an $11 bandana. So I'm sure it doesn't matter, still a lot of profit when they sell a ton of them, and some intern or low wage worker is probably signing them. They can make extra money.
If anyone buys the poster, definitely buy the one without the album. They WILL NOT refund any digital album. So if you get a fake and want a refund they'll deduct the digital album cost. I got screwed on a few of these fake autograph preorders that way.
The digital album is included with the signed poster
You can also buy it without for a few dollars less.
Wow, those ebay flippers move fast. Already a half-dozen posters listed, and some are already throwing around descriptors like "Rare" and "Sold-out".
Well I bought one I couldn't let it pass and then see that they were signed by her but no Digital copy only poster lets see if i'll kick myself later
Yea i said i wasn't going to but couldn't let it pass either and bought a couple, bad thing is i didn't realize you could buy it without the digital download so paid the full $20 each when i have a ton of the digital downloads already from the other stuff i bought.
just to let others know the poster is US only at the moment & cant be sent anywhere else in the world. more of a chance of it being real for those who do grab one
Damn you, you guys are enablers lol... Now I'm taking the poster risk since they're US only. One of these things better be real. If I get 1 real signature I'll be happy lol.
Now I'm just thinking about the fans that argue these are real and refuse to believe they would sell fakes... If we believe these are fakes once they ship... is it ethical, or unethical to resell them to the people who refuse to admit or believe they are fake? If you can't convince them they're fake, aren't they 100% real to them? So you're selling them a real signature in their mind.
Just a funny thought. In reality, They'll probably just end up on a shelf collecting dust with my fake ozzy signatures that I don't know what to do with.
I'd be more optimistic about the posters if they came in a set edition size, and if they had a higher price. If there were 1,000 posters for sale for $150 each, I'd feel confident they were real. But when 10,000 are being sold and the poster is only $16, I just don't see it - that's a really great price even for an unsigned poster.
Lots of artists will sign their work free as a way to boost sales and get more people to buy that art. So I understand why artists would offer free signatures on books/CDs/etc. But I can't imagine Lady Gaga signing that many posters for such a low price. When you've got hundreds of millions of dollars, it's the equivalent of pulling pennies out of the gutter.
That being said, I still ordered one. Even if it's a fake, I won't feel like I've lost enough to be too annoyed.
As for reselling them, I think the most ethical thing to do is to list them with some sort of caveat that they're official but that you didn't witness it being signed, and can offer no guarantees. And then start the auction for $16.50 and let them decide.
I also thought about your ethical question and it may be wrong but as arrogant and rude as these know it alls are on twitter, i really don't think it would bother me to sell them one lol, i once caught a Target pre-sale for a Katy Perry Cd that came with a signed poster and i bought 2 to get free shipping, put the extra one on eBay and the bidding went all the way up to $225 for a $15 item, felt both happy and guilty at the same time but if someone wants to pay it then it's their choice. i think that's why i went for it on these posters because they do seem to have higher value to some.
and yes i agree with letting people know i bought it from her official store and was told by the company they are hand signed but no guarantee because i wasn't there so they decide. these sellers that say guaranteed authentic when they don't have a clue drives me crazy, they also list them as sold out when they are still selling and rare when there are thousands of them.
It's also a good way to cover yourself. My concern is that someone will buy the item, send it to Beckett or PSA, get a failed response, and then accuse me of forgery and demand a refund 3 months after the sale. It'd be a huge hassle, and I don't want negative feedback or order cancellations.
If you're very truthful upfront, then it covers you ethically, and it also means the buyer knows the situation beforehand, and is less likely to purchase it if they're someone who really cares about authenticity.