McCartney and Starr "Signed" Photo and Abbey Road LP from Probstein123 with PSA/DNA LOAs - Very surprising! - Autograph Live2024-03-28T21:04:42Zhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/mccartney-and-starr-signed-photo-with-psa-dna-loa-very-surprising?commentId=3524372%3AComment%3A1316644&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBruce, I emailed PSA and have…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2019-02-26:3524372:Comment:13189722019-02-26T19:39:08.579ZBallroomDays67https://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/BallroomDays67
<p>Bruce, I emailed PSA and have received only an automated response that they are unusually busy. </p>
<p>Bruce, I emailed PSA and have received only an automated response that they are unusually busy. </p> https://www.ebay.com/itm/3827…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2019-02-19:3524372:Comment:13169652019-02-19T16:44:58.011ZBallroomDays67https://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/BallroomDays67
<p><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/382794785177" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.ebay.com/itm/382794785177</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/382794785177" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.ebay.com/itm/382794785177</a></p> I was wondering the same thin…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2019-02-19:3524372:Comment:13167742019-02-19T16:37:13.155ZBallroomDays67https://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/BallroomDays67
<p>I was wondering the same thing myself.</p>
<p>I was wondering the same thing myself.</p> Read my question again.
tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2019-02-19:3524372:Comment:13165602019-02-19T11:39:21.227Zwascherhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Wascher
<p>Read my question again.</p>
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<p>Read my question again.</p>
<p></p> That could be libel / slander…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2019-02-19:3524372:Comment:13168652019-02-19T11:23:37.628ZInvest_In_Graphshttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/InvestInGraphs
<p>That could be libel / slander, and expose one to civil liability. </p>
<p>That could be libel / slander, and expose one to civil liability. </p> Has anyone ever pinpointed ex…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2019-02-19:3524372:Comment:13166892019-02-19T11:21:13.378Zwascherhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Wascher
<p>Has anyone ever pinpointed exactly WHO the So CA forger is? Just curious.</p>
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<p>Has anyone ever pinpointed exactly WHO the So CA forger is? Just curious.</p>
<p></p> Here's another one from probs…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2019-02-19:3524372:Comment:13166442019-02-19T06:42:41.643ZBallroomDays67https://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/BallroomDays67
<p>Here's another one from probstein123 with a PSA/DNA LOA dated February 12, 2019. It's a Ringo signed <em>Bad Boy</em> LP. Does anyone believe that it's authentic?…</p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1143745636?profile=original" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img class="align-full" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1143745636?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="450"></img></a></p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1143750309?profile=original" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img class="align-full" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1143750309?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="350"></img></a></p>
<p>Here's another one from probstein123 with a PSA/DNA LOA dated February 12, 2019. It's a Ringo signed <em>Bad Boy</em> LP. Does anyone believe that it's authentic?</p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1143745636?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img width="450" class="align-full" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1143745636?profile=RESIZE_710x"/></a></p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1143750309?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img width="350" class="align-full" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1143750309?profile=RESIZE_710x"/></a></p> The only way as a picker/coll…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-06-03:3524372:Comment:12141272018-06-03T16:11:02.347ZThomas Williamhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/ThomasWilliam
<p>The only way as a picker/collector to ever be truly comfortable with an autograph is to take the time to learn the trade. In 30 plus years of doing this if my sixth sense says stay away...I do. I never rely on any authentication service. I use a library of catalogs, books, internet and sometimes contacts. The only reason PSA, JSA and the others thrive is that they have filled the need of mostly dealers who can then pass product on with a piece of paper that says its real. The sports…</p>
<p>The only way as a picker/collector to ever be truly comfortable with an autograph is to take the time to learn the trade. In 30 plus years of doing this if my sixth sense says stay away...I do. I never rely on any authentication service. I use a library of catalogs, books, internet and sometimes contacts. The only reason PSA, JSA and the others thrive is that they have filled the need of mostly dealers who can then pass product on with a piece of paper that says its real. The sports autograph industry created this monster by foisting so much crap on the market that the next logical step was to reign it in and capitalize on the fraud problem with authentication services. They saw the opportunity and filled it. </p>
<p>As we have all seen some "authenticators" for the services pass junk. How can anyone truly authenticate with any reliable certainty new material? They cant. Exemplars? nope. Some new material is nothing more than a scribble or the swipe of whatever they are signing with. But still they pass it. Why? $$$</p>
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<p></p> I think it would depend on th…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-06-01:3524372:Comment:12135122018-06-01T16:49:23.785ZBallroomDays67https://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/BallroomDays67
<p>I think it would depend on the level of specificity provided by the person questioning the item. If it's very specific information, the seller wouldn't necessarily have be knowledgeable about the subject, and could at least ask a second expert. Any seller with this amount of experience understands that these TPAs aren't perfect. At some point, it's simply taking advantage of someone else's mistake.</p>
<p>I think it would depend on the level of specificity provided by the person questioning the item. If it's very specific information, the seller wouldn't necessarily have be knowledgeable about the subject, and could at least ask a second expert. Any seller with this amount of experience understands that these TPAs aren't perfect. At some point, it's simply taking advantage of someone else's mistake.</p> Regardless of what caused the…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2018-06-01:3524372:Comment:12136752018-06-01T06:26:20.450ZMike Whitehttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/MikeWhite
<p>Regardless of what caused them to start doing it, the problem is, IMO, that they're doing it--not that people take them at the word & believe that they're actually doing the job that they hold themselves out as experts at.</p>
<p>I think Probstein could actually stand to learn about the hobby that they're engaging in, but, short of that, they're doing what I'd do in that situation--hiring the experts and taking them at their word that they're doing their job.</p>
<p>That they aren't…</p>
<p>Regardless of what caused them to start doing it, the problem is, IMO, that they're doing it--not that people take them at the word & believe that they're actually doing the job that they hold themselves out as experts at.</p>
<p>I think Probstein could actually stand to learn about the hobby that they're engaging in, but, short of that, they're doing what I'd do in that situation--hiring the experts and taking them at their word that they're doing their job.</p>
<p>That they aren't actually experts, or aren't experts any longer, is a problem with PSA, not the people who buy into the myth.</p>