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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on March 1, 2017 at 7:18am

Someone hit it for $49. Presuming it's not some sort of copy, a real steal.

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Permalink Reply by Steve on March 1, 2017 at 10:27am

I inquired with the seller about it being a copy and supposedly it is not. I was going to get it for myself but I have plenty of signed Mantle items and I really wanted somebody on our site to be able to get a great deal.

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Permalink Reply by Don Webster on March 1, 2017 at 1:19pm

Be interested to see if this turns out o.k.

The seller has perfect eBay feedback but from viewing his sales record he deals entirely in antiques and such...not in autographs. So to rely on his "expertise" in describing this piece may or may not come into question.

Time will tell...like they say nothing ventured...nothing gained...

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Permalink Reply by Steve on March 1, 2017 at 5:32pm

I hope it turns out not to be a copy. The signature is definitely good. The seller told me that he has been receiving messages telling him the signature was fake because it didn't have a COA and some were calling him names. Hopefully someone here bought it and will let us know.

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Permalink Reply by Invest_In_Graphs on March 5, 2017 at 3:53am

There's a bigger issue - it's not real. Regardless of it being a copy or hand-written, it's just not real.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 5, 2017 at 8:06am

What tells you that? It looks like a copy to me but I think the autograph looks right.

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Permalink Reply by Invest_In_Graphs on March 5, 2017 at 8:13am

1. The size of both Ms relative to each other is wrong.

2. The second M is misformed.

3. "antle" is done with incorrect slants.

4. All of "No. 7" is mis-formed.

To me, it's as wrong as the DiMaggio ball that was recently commented on. It's close, but not close enough. This is a fairly prevalent style that he been going around for years.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 5, 2017 at 8:22am

At first look it seemed pretty much right on. But I see what you mean. Hopefully members that know Mantle better than me will give their opinions

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 5, 2017 at 8:23am

Do you have other examples of the style?

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Permalink Reply by Invest_In_Graphs on March 5, 2017 at 8:50am

No, I haven't saved them. They pop up, however. If you memorize this one, others you see will stand out.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on March 5, 2017 at 9:14am

I believe Invest may be correct.

The top is the questioned item, the two below are items I had in my Mantle "forgery file." The kneeling pose is almost certainly from the same hand. The swinging pose may be... it's a bit too small to be certain.

A good lesson learned... you can be lulled by seeing so many of the terrible mass-produced fakes that it makes it easier to be fooled by slightly more skilled fakes.

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Permalink Reply by Invest_In_Graphs on March 5, 2017 at 9:22am

Steve, you're right. At glance, these are all the same style.

You should give up Space and open shop with me to authenticate Mantles!

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