Hey guys! I would probabaly like to buy myself for my birthday this Ray Charles autograph..is it genuine in your eyes?Cheers, Christian:)
Because Innuendo on this website said that his Freddie Mercury signature was fake...so I am curious..
I have to say that I'm sceptical about the Heritage one. It doesn't look much like any of the "believed real" signatures (I realise that the inscription is certainly not by him).
The price it fetched (ca, $600 with BP) suggests I may be right.
I appreciate that, truly, but looks like stamp. Why?
it's impossible for to know why you would think its a stamp, only you know that. Answer me this question do you believe he'd stand there and sign one and stamp the other? If it was a stamp then there would be identical examples. It's not credible to say "they've all been lost". it's also not credible for his manager to be signing embellished autographs on Ray's behalf whilst stamping this child like version at the same time. They'd do one or the other not both.
Who says he was trying to place it in the middle. he obviously could not intend to do that. it just turned out how it did.
yeah it is interesting to see..the more near he got his writing to musically his words got smaller and then at the end it got larger..what a lucky bastard Mr Charles heh
Yeah its a bit odd cause on the newspaper all words where the same hight..but yeah s*** happens ..i guess
it also can be..that Mr Charles knew that there was thos stamped musically yours..and he didi this intationally.well he could have trained himself i guess..or!? what are the odds
speculation here, but this man can read brail. And put him in front of a piano, let him find the high and low keys, and he can put his sensitive hands anywhere he wants on piano.
I imagine that with a few minutes practice, give him a postcard of know dimensions, he can easily puts his hand on corner for oriention, and sign just where he is suppose too .... comments?
let's be realistic instead of idealistic. what are the chances that he would draw each letter in his name, in that location, in a straight line so it doesnt touch the inscription? It's a stamp, no other explanation. if you look at the other signatures "known" to be authentic, they are random, overlapping, and actually hand-drawn. This has all the characteristics of a stamp. Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks.........
Its hard to believe he could play the piano if he had no sense of location. Do we know for certain that there are any true 'known' autographs. Some people on here say he never signed, some people say he did, some say his manager signed them all in a fancy style, some say he used a stamp of the child like version. There is actually virtually no consensus on this forum about Ray Charles. I knew this one would be a tough one. There can't be anyone who can truly authenticate but plenty who will charge to say they can. There is one chap on ebay selling a Ray Charles (with a certificate) for over £13,000 and the autograph is actually a better one than i could do and i can see my hand in front of me. The fact is there will never be agreement of Ray Charles autographs other than dismissing the obviously very fancy ones than not even most of us could even sign in that way.
wow no kidding sir..this one on ebay looks totally different hehe what a mess heh http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Authentic-Ray-Charles-Quincy-Jones-Jamie-...
I also wanted to mention that Ray Charles was surely using drugs and maybe this changed the way how he wrote.i mean his fingers must have beenshaking..i remember from the movie that his fingers where becoming unstable at a time later on..i guess at the beginning there was no shakiness , at the middle of his career there was and athe end less..but that how i can explain the autographs from Mr.Paul and from the Manager..but this ebay thing looks too good to be true
This one is a British seller BUT he has a certificate to authenticate - SO MUST BE REAL!!! - and probably priced it high to give it some credibility also This example does go to prove a point though, which is that there is so little consensus on Ray Charles autographs. On this thread alone people have said he NEVER did autographs, some say he did, some say that his manager did nice autographs, some say they were stamped both in a nice style and in a child like style. There is no agreement and I doubt anyone can really authenticate them other than people like in the case of this ebay item who are happy to authenticate anything for the money. There is a lot of value in examining the autograph and trying to find examples of other real ones, but are there any that anyone can really say is 100% real and back it up? probably not. So it is one of those autographs where the story does play a major factor in belief.
Sir! Can you tell me please from which year the newspapaer with the ray charles signature is from..and which newspaper it is?Thanks!:)
yeah really hard to authentitcate..but i am curious which firm did this..probably PSA/DNA and you cant trust much them..and also what is suspicious he also didnt include from whom the certifiate it is hehe its quack quack probably