Sir David Gilmour Preprints - A Work in Progress... - Autograph Live2024-03-29T13:09:41Zhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/sir-gilmour-preprints-this-man-does-not-sign?commentId=3524372%3AComment%3A1111900&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI will respectfully disagree…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-11-02:3524372:Comment:11326232017-11-02T22:07:24.999ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p>I will respectfully disagree for now on this topic. Some of the alignments do not seem human.</p>
<p>I will respectfully disagree for now on this topic. Some of the alignments do not seem human.</p> Imo, these four are all each…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-11-02:3524372:Comment:11323502017-11-02T21:53:09.111ZCorey Moylanhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/CoreyMoylan
Imo, these four are all each different and authentic examples
Imo, these four are all each different and authentic examples Particularly this:
tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-10-14:3524372:Comment:11261952017-10-14T08:53:03.271ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p>Particularly<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54777318?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54777318?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-left"/></a> this:</p>
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<p>Particularly<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54777318?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54777318?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-left"/></a> this:</p>
<p></p> I do not see the images I hav…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-10-14:3524372:Comment:11262772017-10-14T08:29:18.346ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p><span>I do not see the images I have shown as humanly possible. That degree of perfect angle alignment, in quantity. Many alignments. That is a clearly a machine. More I can not say. Do others have opinions? I know Roger agrees mine is a preprint, Is it not obvious? Look at the the other on page 1 of this thread. There is another thread with additional examples but I can't locate it right now. </span></p>
<p><span>I do not see the images I have shown as humanly possible. That degree of perfect angle alignment, in quantity. Many alignments. That is a clearly a machine. More I can not say. Do others have opinions? I know Roger agrees mine is a preprint, Is it not obvious? Look at the the other on page 1 of this thread. There is another thread with additional examples but I can't locate it right now. </span></p> Hm...why not. It´s his script…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-08-31:3524372:Comment:11120722017-08-31T17:44:23.005ZAndreashttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/AndreasGelz
<p>Hm...why not. It´s his script/handwriting. Maybe written all in one session, so they can look very similiar...</p>
<p>Hm...why not. It´s his script/handwriting. Maybe written all in one session, so they can look very similiar...</p> Andreas, I made the following…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-08-31:3524372:Comment:11119932017-08-31T17:42:18.963ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p><span>Andreas, I made the following "best" and "wishes" image, again each floated over individually for placement, from 2 of the 4 you just provided. As before, 50% transparency, signature not addressed. <em>How</em> <em>can this be human</em>? Obviously, the previously shown "wishes" matches these, making 3 matches. These are some kind of preprints. Perhaps just the salutation, I can't say yet, but at least 2 signatures match much than uncomfortably. If I took these and the previous…</span></p>
<p><span>Andreas, I made the following "best" and "wishes" image, again each floated over individually for placement, from 2 of the 4 you just provided. As before, 50% transparency, signature not addressed. <em>How</em> <em>can this be human</em>? Obviously, the previously shown "wishes" matches these, making 3 matches. These are some kind of preprints. Perhaps just the salutation, I can't say yet, but at least 2 signatures match much than uncomfortably. If I took these and the previous shown doubled scan and showed all the angles the match would be impossible by a human IMCO.</span></p>
<p><span><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54775021?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54775021?profile=original" width="484" class="align-left"/></a></span></p> Thanks! After seeing those "b…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-08-31:3524372:Comment:11117612017-08-31T15:16:25.136ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p>Thanks! After seeing those "best wishes"? And I see it again in at least 1 of these. I don't think they can all be hand signed. </p>
<p>Thanks! After seeing those "best wishes"? And I see it again in at least 1 of these. I don't think they can all be hand signed. </p> Eric, you can find four of th…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-08-31:3524372:Comment:11119002017-08-31T10:18:29.403ZAndreashttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/AndreasGelz
<p>Eric, you can find four of them here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rocknhelp.de/?s=gilmour" target="_blank">http://www.rocknhelp.de/?s=gilmour</a></p>
<p>Or:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rocknhelp.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/000_1829.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.rocknhelp.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/000_1829.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.rocknhelp.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/000_2681.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.rocknhelp.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/000_2681.jpg…</a></p>
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<p>Eric, you can find four of them here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rocknhelp.de/?s=gilmour" target="_blank">http://www.rocknhelp.de/?s=gilmour</a></p>
<p>Or:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rocknhelp.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/000_1829.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.rocknhelp.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/000_1829.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.rocknhelp.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/000_2681.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.rocknhelp.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/000_2681.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.rocknhelp.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/003.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.rocknhelp.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/003.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.rocknhelp.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/003.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.rocknhelp.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/003.jpg</a></p>
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<p>I think tese are all real...</p> PS - I note the "David" and t…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-08-31:3524372:Comment:11116572017-08-31T07:51:18.530ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p>PS - I note the "David" and the "Gilmour" also have placement variation! But the same impossible amount of perfect alignments and angles - and then variations <em>appearing</em> as different execution. I will show this next.</p>
<p>PS - I note the "David" and the "Gilmour" also have placement variation! But the same impossible amount of perfect alignments and angles - and then variations <em>appearing</em> as different execution. I will show this next.</p> Here is another example. In t…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2017-08-31:3524372:Comment:11117442017-08-31T07:30:45.701ZEric Keith Longohttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/Eric947
<p>Here is another example. In this image, I have used Andreas's scan as a base, and floated the "best" and the "wishes" over from my example <em>individually</em>, at 50% transparency with little attempt at scale, one slight rotation on "best" and no other adjustments. I have not done anything with the signature - that is as it appears on Andreas's photo.</p>
<p>Whatever this device is (and it is a certainly a device as this is not the product of a human hand to my eye - the image above shows…</p>
<p>Here is another example. In this image, I have used Andreas's scan as a base, and floated the "best" and the "wishes" over from my example <em>individually</em>, at 50% transparency with little attempt at scale, one slight rotation on "best" and no other adjustments. I have not done anything with the signature - that is as it appears on Andreas's photo.</p>
<p>Whatever this device is (and it is a certainly a device as this is not the product of a human hand to my eye - the image above shows this), it has the ability to use different words from a pool, alter placement and then create wide variance in execution. For a simple idea of the type of product, imagine an Autopen operating on...a washing machine on spin with about 12 pairs of jeans in.</p>
<p>But, I am told at least some of these were/are created with a single pass through a printer. This suggests a digital file. That suggests a program? Mr. Steffman? Mr. Shaw? I can say mine is <em>certainly</em> not live ink. It shows no crossover etc. I have Andreas to post a larger scan of his. </p>
<p>I am looking now at the recent books (preprinted), as many photos as I can, many things, looking for additional matches to further support this proposition, although I think it has now been shown that something is clearly not quite right here.</p>
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