The Beatles Autographs - Opinions of authenticity? - Autograph Live2024-03-28T20:11:55Zhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/the-beatles-autographs-opinions-of-authenticity?commentId=3524372%3AComment%3A194545&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI have spoke to Marc a few ti…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2011-12-06:3524372:Comment:1945452011-12-06T15:31:50.110ZGreighttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/GreigMcArthur
<p>I have spoke to Marc a few times over the months and he is a lovely guy but I do believe that these are not genuine. I am suprised that he would authenticated these but I have seen the items on collectorsproof and also his certificate below.</p>
<p>All I can say is that am shocked as he and aftal have questioned me in the past about authenticating music autographs and they go and authenticate these.</p>
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<p>I have spoke to Marc a few times over the months and he is a lovely guy but I do believe that these are not genuine. I am suprised that he would authenticated these but I have seen the items on collectorsproof and also his certificate below.</p>
<p>All I can say is that am shocked as he and aftal have questioned me in the past about authenticating music autographs and they go and authenticate these.</p>
<p></p> On Aftal website they describ…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2011-12-04:3524372:Comment:1936362011-12-04T14:25:22.531ZMark Joneshttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/MarkJones
<p>On Aftal website they describe themselves as: <em>"UKs Only Independent Authentication Service"</em></p>
<p>The member is also a reg dealer in the UACC, surely he cannot be any good if he did authenticate all these? To me this is worrying if he gets away with this using the names of the autograph clubs.</p>
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<p>On Aftal website they describe themselves as: <em>"UKs Only Independent Authentication Service"</em></p>
<p>The member is also a reg dealer in the UACC, surely he cannot be any good if he did authenticate all these? To me this is worrying if he gets away with this using the names of the autograph clubs.</p>
<p></p> If Authenticated It actually…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2011-12-02:3524372:Comment:1932622011-12-02T19:10:23.752ZSteve Cyrkin, Adminhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/SteveCyrkin
<p>If Authenticated It actually certified the autographs you've shown here, I'm shocked that they're an AFTAL member. The "All My Lovin" EP I mentioned above that they claim they didn't certify (not sure if that's true) also came from Cameo Auctions, and is at least as bad as the worst of these.</p>
<p>If Authenticated It actually certified the autographs you've shown here, I'm shocked that they're an AFTAL member. The "All My Lovin" EP I mentioned above that they claim they didn't certify (not sure if that's true) also came from Cameo Auctions, and is at least as bad as the worst of these.</p> This is another item that bee…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2011-12-02:3524372:Comment:1927802011-12-02T11:36:35.564ZMark Joneshttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/MarkJones
<p>This is another item that been authenticated by AuthenticateIt via Cameo Auctioneers</p>
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<p>This is another item that been authenticated by AuthenticateIt via Cameo Auctioneers</p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54610831?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54610831?profile=original" width="640"/></a></p> For the other two questionabl…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2011-12-02:3524372:Comment:1927792011-12-02T11:17:43.129ZMark Joneshttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/MarkJones
<p>For the other two questionable items:</p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.collectorsproof.com/JR3-K9E-WC8-NA7" target="_blank">http://www.collectorsproof.com/JR3-K9E-WC8-NA7</a></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.collectorsproof.com/WPQ-YC7-WA3-XAJ" target="_blank">http://www.collectorsproof.com/WPQ-YC7-WA3-XAJ</a></p>
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<p>Authenticate It have been working with Cameo Auctioneers authenticating many autographs they have been selling.</p>
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<p>For the other two questionable items:</p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.collectorsproof.com/JR3-K9E-WC8-NA7" target="_blank">http://www.collectorsproof.com/JR3-K9E-WC8-NA7</a></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.collectorsproof.com/WPQ-YC7-WA3-XAJ" target="_blank">http://www.collectorsproof.com/WPQ-YC7-WA3-XAJ</a></p>
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<p>Authenticate It have been working with Cameo Auctioneers authenticating many autographs they have been selling.</p>
<p></p> It was on they website as aut…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2011-12-02:3524372:Comment:1924542011-12-02T11:15:47.467ZMark Joneshttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/MarkJones
<p>It was on they website as authenticated by Aftal authenticator.</p>
<p>I do have a copy of one of the certificates for the first Beatles autograph above. I'll attach it on here. Cameo have items placed on a website called collectorsproof that is being advertised by Aftal and its members which has these items on it and also states its been authenticated by them, I think Aftal are some kind of partnership with this company so if they didn't authenticate it then I don't think they would show…</p>
<p>It was on they website as authenticated by Aftal authenticator.</p>
<p>I do have a copy of one of the certificates for the first Beatles autograph above. I'll attach it on here. Cameo have items placed on a website called collectorsproof that is being advertised by Aftal and its members which has these items on it and also states its been authenticated by them, I think Aftal are some kind of partnership with this company so if they didn't authenticate it then I don't think they would show it.</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54610764?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54610764?profile=original" width="286"/></a><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54610834?profile=original"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54610834?profile=original" width="468"/></a></p> Do you know for sure they aut…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2011-12-02:3524372:Comment:1929622011-12-02T10:33:57.722ZSteve Cyrkin, Adminhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/SteveCyrkin
Do you know for sure they authenticated them? A collector recently bought a fake Beatles-signed "All My Lovin" EP from Cameo Auctions in the UK that they claimed was authenticated by Authenticate It, but the company denied that they had. Cameo also claimed it it had previously sold at Christies, but Christies said it hadn't.<br/>
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AFTAL is a top notch organization. I'd be surprised if they approved the service if they weren't reputable. Anything else to report?
Do you know for sure they authenticated them? A collector recently bought a fake Beatles-signed "All My Lovin" EP from Cameo Auctions in the UK that they claimed was authenticated by Authenticate It, but the company denied that they had. Cameo also claimed it it had previously sold at Christies, but Christies said it hadn't.<br/>
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AFTAL is a top notch organization. I'd be surprised if they approved the service if they weren't reputable. Anything else to report? Hi Steve,
They are proud to s…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2011-12-02:3524372:Comment:1924532011-12-02T09:40:15.950ZMark Joneshttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/MarkJones
<p>Hi Steve,</p>
<p>They are proud to say that they are the only authorized Authenticator from Aftal (AuthenticateIt.co.uk)</p>
<p>The guy Marc, is also a founding member of Aftal.</p>
<p>Pretty worrying to be honest as they claim to be the best in the business and their members and co founder authenticate items like these.</p>
<p>Hi Steve,</p>
<p>They are proud to say that they are the only authorized Authenticator from Aftal (AuthenticateIt.co.uk)</p>
<p>The guy Marc, is also a founding member of Aftal.</p>
<p>Pretty worrying to be honest as they claim to be the best in the business and their members and co founder authenticate items like these.</p> Mark,
I didn't know there wa…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2011-12-01:3524372:Comment:1926742011-12-01T23:30:25.317ZSteve Cyrkin, Adminhttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/SteveCyrkin
Mark,<br />
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I didn't know there was an AFTAL authenticator. I'll tell you, I don't care for any of these.
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I didn't know there was an AFTAL authenticator. I'll tell you, I don't care for any of these. All these 3 have been authent…tag:live.autographmagazine.com,2011-11-30:3524372:Comment:1923772011-11-30T13:21:09.609ZMark Joneshttps://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/MarkJones
<p>All these 3 have been authenticated by AuthenticateIt the AFTAL Authenticator. Personally I do think the first Lennon isn't right. The second item is way off and the 3rd looks nothing like his signature as its a signed Help Lp and don't think he signed that during then and after...</p>
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<p>All these 3 have been authenticated by AuthenticateIt the AFTAL Authenticator. Personally I do think the first Lennon isn't right. The second item is way off and the 3rd looks nothing like his signature as its a signed Help Lp and don't think he signed that during then and after...</p>
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