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I'm hoping someone can tell me if this Stan Lee signature appears genuine. The ink is clearly different than the print, but the COA it came with is from some company I don't know and can't easily track down. I'm also concerned about the date, since this is after he stopped doing public signings and so close to his death. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.thanks in advance! IMG_20181226_135132512.jpg

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NG, IMO.

No Good?  Based on the signature, COA, or both?  I unfortunately didn't ask who authenticated it before purchase.  When it arrived and I had never heard of the authenticator and couldn't track them down, I became concerned.  Ever heard of a CAF Collectibles?

Oh, and I reviewed the listing, claims it was a private autograph signing but doesn't say where.  I've asked for more details.

I didn't even look at the COA. One glance at the signature was enough. Tells abound, that are even further anachronistically exacerbated (as if that were necessary) by the alleged signing date. Not a snowball's chance in Hell of Stan signing this at any time, let alone Oct of 2018!

Yeah, I'm no expert, just looking at the signature, but the date seemed off, and the random COA from a nonexistent company immediately gave me that sinking feeling. Thanks for verifying, I needed to make sure I wasn't being paranoid. 

Ok, I gotta bring this one back around for one more check.  I filed a complaint with Ebay and Paypal on this one, and left negative feedback on the item.  Today, I got the following message from the guy:

"Hello
Please if you could remove the feedback. I have offered a full refund once you send the item back.
I am sorry you do not believe it is real, but it is not forged. I have been dealing in comics and cards since I was 10-11 years old... I am 45 and that is over 30 years in the business.
I have met Stan on multiple occasions and as I said this was a private signing held in California around May of 2018. The October date is when I printed the certificate.  I could not confirm the actual Signing date."

He goes on longer asking me to remove the feedback and insisting he will refund the money.  Now, this still all looks sketchy to me, because if it's a 2018 autograph, I was expecting to see an SLC Excelsior COA.   Shouldn't anything he signed at a private even in that timeframe come with that?  I just want to be 100% certain this is no good, don't want to be punishing a legit seller/collector.  I honestly didn't expect to hear from this guy again, and the apologetic tone is surprising me

Thanks for your continued help and support on this one.

Seller is fameight88888888 on Ebay, if that helps.

Even early 2018 signatures don't look anything like this. It's NG, make no mistake about it, but in all honesty, I think you jumped the gun by negging him if you requested a return and refund, and he complied. At that point, the right thing to do is go through the motions. You request the return, he accepts, a return merchandise order is effected, you send the item back, he receives it, and on that day it arrives back at his end, or soon after, he gives the go ahead for the refund.

This is the autograph biz' SOP. You buy an autograph, if you decide you lack faith in it, or if it fails to pass authentication, either one, you ask for a return/refund and a responsible seller will gladly comply and agree to remedy upon return.

If that's the way this has proceeded thusfar, no resistance from the seller to the return request, a negative is definitely out of order.

I agree completely, Woody.

OK, thanks for the confirmation and the additional insight. That's how things were going until I got a return address in a different city than it was shipped from. At that point, I figured he was going to pull something about how I shipped it to the wrong address or come up with some other excuse not to refund me. He was also being pretty snide about me not liking his COA.

At that point, I left negative feedback and turned it over to my credit card company. I figured that was the only way I was getting a dime back, and I don't want anyone else to have the same experience. I don't know anything about the autograph industry or what's standard though. First one I've ever bought, and it was supposed to be a gift. If you guys are telling me I was too harsh, I'll adjust the feedback accordingly. Fair is fair, and I don't mean to overreact. And after waiting two weeks for him to ship it, only to have it be fake, i was upset about it.

Thanks again, you've all been a great resource and a big help. 

Did you return the item? Did the seller approve the return in the dispute? Just a thought, I would have held off posting feedback until I received my money back at least.

I can't speak for the authenticity of the signature but it seems only one member here has opined on this one.

I got a return address from Paypal that didn't match the sender's address on the original package.  That was the last straw for me, I filed a dispute with my credit card company and let them worry about it.  I didn't want to ship it out to have the guy claim he never got it because I sent it to the wrong place.

Mike, as long as you send it back to the seller's paypal account verified address for return, that is, the address that Paypal directs you to send the parcel to, you're good to go!  Many times a seller has a different return address on their account than the main address associated with the initial registration of the account. That, in and of itself, isn't a definite indication of chicanery. In fact, to comply with paypal's directive, and the conditions of the return, a buyer must send the parcel back to the address that Paypal has stipulated for the return to be valid and in compliance with Paypal's handling of the return and to fulfill all conditions of buyer protection.

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