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Hi everyone,

I’ll be the first to admit that Ruth’s signature is not 100% my area of expertise, however, I know you guys are really very good at spotting a bad Ruth. What’s your opinion on this signed ball I’m thinking of acquiring? Any and all opinions are welcome and thank you in advance!

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New pen on old ball.  Just based on that alone I wouldn’t go near it.

DR wrote: "New pen on old ball"

Precisely.

And a few false starts; what I call stuttering, along the way.

It's off here and there in enough ways and to a fair amount of degree that even if they nailed the ink, "aged" it to perfection, the track would still be off.

An above average attempt though.

Who's offering this and where? If I may ask.

Nice try as far as forgeries go, but a big swing and a close miss nonetheless, IMO.

I got it. The-Boxing-boys on Ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lou-Gehrig-signed-Baseball-very-dirty-and-...

They have a rotten Gehrig to match their rotten kitchen table top Ruth among their listings as well (I figured they would. Where's the Cobb and Matty? They don't forge Cobbs?). And once again, another seller of fake Ruth and Gehrig pieces that sell hundreds of autos, many with COAs (window dressing, to shill the fakes), but they didn't bother to have any of the $500 and up signatures authenticated.

Note to the-boxing-boys:

What in God's name exemplar did you use to forge this? Did you even use an exemplar?

Hint, hint: When the "Lou" can fit completely inside the head of the "G", and still have room to spare for another "ou" or "L"; that's a problem (among other things).

When many of your $10 to $50 pieces have legitimate COAs/LOAs and the $5000 pieces don't, then that's a problem. Your strategy may fool some. But far from all. What you're doing is obvious. Do I really need to waste time mentioning more that we both know and that you know that I know by this time? I know you're reading the thread. Maybe it's good that you're reading it. Maybe you'll reconsider the strategy. It's not a good one and can eventually put a serious crimp in your freedom. All you have to do is sell one of these $5000 rotten signatures to the wrong guy, or should I say the "right" guy, maybe someone working for your state attorney general's office, and that will start a ball rolling that you'll wish you never put into motion! Consider that. You never know who and what your buyer is.

Great summation, Woody.  Unfortunately, for his innocent and unsuspecting buyers, he probably won’t listen, which will eventually be to his detriment.

Here it is.

What was the intent here? One can only imagine. I'm always curious as to the forger's methodology. Was this supposed to look like a game ball that Ruth signed? The slowly drawn, Alien Xenomorph-like bulbous head of the 'R' is almost as comical as it is horrific.

New pen on old ball.  Precisely.  And to my naked eyes, it looks like ballpoint pen (or perhaps a fine felt tip) which didn’t exist at that time.  Why would a forger be that stupid to use a ballpoint, or a felt tip, for a Ruth autograph?   

Because there are people dumb enough to buy them.

True that.

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