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Ebay Seller Dgerber06 Lists Forged Roger Maris Mickey Mantle Photo Worthless COA Signed Certified Memories

Before I continue, below are links showing hundreds of examples of forged Mickey Mantle baseballs, photos, etc. found on Ebay (the most dangerous place to buy autographs if you're a casual collector or impulse buyer).

https://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/ebay-mantle-dimaggi...

https://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/examples-of-mickey-...

https://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/most-common-mantle-...

Check out the below forged Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris photo listed by Ebay seller Dgerber06.

The worthless COA is from Signed Certified Memories.

These are your typical mass-produced "Florida" forgeries.

We've observed dozens upon dozens of "Florida" forgeries on that inkjet-produced image.

Typical "Florida" crap.

I will continue, as I have for over a decade, to expose the "Florida" forgeries and the Ebay sellers that list and sell them.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Mantle-Roger-Maris-Autographed-8-X-...

Ebay seller Dgerber06 also has listed a "Florida" forged Willie Mays photo with a worthless COA from Signed Certified Memories.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Willie-Mays-Autographed-4X6-in-a-5X7-Mat-w...

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It's astonishing that anyone can read the so-called "certificate of authenticity" from some no name worthless company with all it's disclaimers and deflection, and place any value in it at all.

Anyone with a lick of common sense would realize the wording of COA itself is a huge red flag.

You're right, Steve, but with so many delusional Ebay autograph collectors, crap like this sells every day on EBay.

Ebay is an enabler of this garbage!!!

This is a shocker.

Ebay actually removed it.

Most of the buyers are not delusional. They just don’t know about the problem. They think that a COA is protection. And they probably think that eBay cares. Just like the thousands of soldiers who bought these through military exchanges thought that the exchanges were looking out for them.

Steve, I agree partly, but I still feel the majority of them are delusional.

Especially when they purchase a Mickey Mantle autographed photo for $49.00, thinking they "stole" it for a great price.

That's delusional.

There are certainly inexperienced and innocent victims of fakes. Moms looking for a gift for their kid and they just don't know any better, military buying through a vendor they believe has been properly screened, etc.

However, a scam often requires TWO greedy parties.

I believe a lot of the buyers of these fakes think they outsmarted everyone else and got something on the cheap. Evidence of this is how many times we see the same item for sale shortly thereafter for market price. The flipper thinks he outfoxed everyone else.

I can't tell you how many times I see a fake sell for cheap on ebay to soon be submitted to an auction house or TPA where it fails. The people doing this are not people completely inexperienced in the hobby. They are the fuel that feeds the forgery industry.

I agree.  I feel bad for them.  You have the person who has no knowledge on the subject matter and wants to pick up a gift for someone they know who is a fan of a particular player.  They have no idea what they are getting into.  Then you have the person who like to collect, and thinks they are getting a steal, but has no real knowledge of the collecting world.  They proudly display a collection of worthless paper and ink.  They have legitimate signatures from low level players, but like Chris said, think they got a steal and out smarted everyone with their $49 Mantle. It reminds me of people who get into the stock market with no prior knowledge or go to Vegas thinking they are going to be the one who beats the house.  The forgers are the house, and they have the advantage.  

Well written by both Steve Z. and Steve.

They come with a COA that often says it's forensically examined.

  1. Collectors picture an examiner swearing on a bible it's good. They don't realize that a COA with the word "forensic" on a COA means that there's a 99.99% likelihood that the autograph is fake. OK...99.999%.  I was giving the autograph the benefit of the doubt.
  2. They can't believe that law enforcement doesn't shut them down and arrest them.
  3. They think that eBay and other selling platform protects them.
  4. They see 100% perfect feedback, with accolades for the "great autograph at a good price."
  5. If they're basically honest people they may have a hard time someone would be out to screw them.

Again, look the thousands of soldiers and their families who put confidence in the military exchange and never thought they'd be sold horrible forgeries. They weren't delusional. 

I agree with most of what you wrote, Steve, and I feel bad those military people that got ripped off, but they were delusional in thinking they were buying "investment items" at the prices that were realized.

Please don't get me wrong though; I feel badly for them and wish those that perpetrated that entire scam (John House, CEO AtAuction, Chris Morales, Drew Max, Ted Taylor and Stephen Rocchi, and of course, Mr. Florida himself) were held accountable.

To me, the military exchange is a different story.  It provides a sense of trust to the buyer.  That scenario is even more unfortunate, because they are in a more vulnerable position.

Totally agree, Steve, and those people should have been held accountable (criminally) and the "case" was dropped.

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