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Hi,

I'm thinking of buying from Bryan Ulrich and was wondering what the custom charges would be if any on a value of $1700 to the UK...any ideas?? Anyone else purchased from Bryan and been charged??

Advice would be appreciated

Many thanks, Phil 

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Hi Phil, I recently sent an item in January worth 800 pounds declared customs value. The customs rate is now tricky with Brexit and the friend I sent to paid about 12% of the total value but called 0300 322 9434 to check this. From memory you will have to pay 20% VAT on the items total value of the goods as well. They are now waiting to see if they were overcharged or not as the rate varies on value of the item, category of the item - clothing versus sports gear etc.

So as an approximate, $1700 is about 1,220 pounds which at 12% duty is 1,366 pounds plus 20% VAT of 273 pounds equals 1,639 pounds in total or $2,283 dollars. This is an approximate and does not include costs for shipping or insurance which will also incur VAT and customs charges as part of the total.

Hope this helps and I'd check with customs as your item may be valued at less or more for duty.

Thanks for your help Dan! Very much appreciated..I think I'll give my purchase a second thought now...Think Bryan needs to move to the UK lol

The import fees and taxes are outrageous. I'm glad I live in the USA. With that said, it's only a matter of time till our politicians decide to do the same. It hurts individuals and small businesses the most.

Cheers for the comment Joe

Sorry, I wasn't trying to hijack your discussion. It just seems there are more various taxes and fees being added on to the cost of buying and selling. It's getting so confusing and expensive that I don't buy like I used to. It hurts more than it helps.

Not at all..I appreciate your input..thankyou for sharing 

I generally agree with Dan's summary of UK import charges payable.

There are possible reductions on the VAT rate, depending on the type of item imported eg art works and 'collectors pieces of historical interest'. 

The definitions of the types of art work included in the 5% VAT category are quite narrow, and need to be read carefully on the HMRC pages.

There are no 'definitions' on the HMRC pages as to what counts as a 'collector's item of historical interest', which would be eligible for 5% VAT.   You can however email HMRC (see details given on HMRC pages) in advance of your purchase, and ask them for advice. 

A word of caution: I once purchased a rare item of clothing that included a date in the design.  I asked HMRC to class this as 'an item of historical interest', but they declined, and classed it as 'clothing'.  The item was not a piece that most collectors would wear, as doing so would have reduced its value.  Nevertheless, HMRC rulings rule!  (They warn that 'if you appeal, you can be charged more', I assume as a penalty for appealing :(  )

NB also that if you have already received the item by post, you can send the customs charge paperwork (which arrives with/ on the parcel) and item purchase details (eg from the sale page of an auction) to HMRC and ask them to re-calculate the charge and refund you if you think you have paid too much, on the basis of advice on the HMRC pages.  This correspondence formerly took upwards of a month, and I imagine will take much longer post-Brexit.

Occasionally I have quoted the tariff code for a 5% VAT item to the overseas seller, who has kindly included it on the customs form at the time of posting.  Then HMRC have still charged 20% VAT (either because they missed or did not agree with the 5% tariff code) and I have had to appeal by post anyway. 

The UK HMRC 'works of art and collectors' items page is here:

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/imports/imps05200

The UK HMRC general importation tax page is here:  

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notice-143-a-guide-for-i...

Thankyou very much for all the advice Lizzie! Very much appreciated..I will do some more homework on this 

Yes it depends on what it is there is no logic for the different codes a handbill and a posters if from a magazine have no vat charge yet a normal poster has 20% vat , photos and records are 20% vat ,fedex are the best they will charge you 5% if you use the collectors code 9705000090 generally you will get away with that code on most items if you put collectable ,there is a no vat code 4901100000 but you have to have the correct item for that code and be prepared to send a few back and forth e mails but its worth a go,Royal mail will charge you the full 20% vat no matter what the item and you have to claim it back if you think it is a collectors item or can prove to them that it is a collectable this takes around 3 weeks so can be a costly outlay ,the fees on $1800 all in with the collection fee and possible custom charge on top of the vat might be around £350 if you cant reduce it with any of the descriptions or codes 

in the past i have actually flown to America had a 3 day holiday in a decent hotel and brought the item back with me for less than the customs charges on high end items thats how stupid the fees are  

Great info Rogers...thanks for your input ..very much appreciated

I have just won an 9 month battle with Feddex and HMCR over incorrect coding on a purchase from usa.  Had I lost i would have had to pay the third party's fees as well. There is no logic for the different codes as roger points out.  FYI ebay now adds 20per cent automatically on all ebay purchases non uk and 20 per cent on non uk purchases as well and this is going to hit buyers and sellers as well

Thanks for the info and advice Michelle.

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