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Sone Elton John signed new CD singles not passing 3rd party authentication

FYI, in Real Autograph Collectors Club group on Facebook a person posted that Beckett and PSA are saying the Elton John signed CD single art card from the UK is not authentic. There is debate on how many he signed, may have been signed by others or used autopen.

Here is link to the discussion over there https://www.facebook.com/groups/955090951189857?multi_permalinks=47...

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Now the doubt is there mate 

has anyone on this group had a full auto from the store ? 

I had a full auto - see attached!

Where is this picture from?

These are my two copies.

KD, where did you see that they sold unsigned copies of the single (not counting the accidental unsigned artcards)? Also, if they did sell unsigned copies first, wouldnt they have excluded the artcard?

Here's the Twitter picture for reference.. its hard to tell still

First of all, I wouldn't put all that much weight on what one of these TPAs says one way or another. They've passed presale items that were fake and failed presale items that were authentic before. 

I wouldn't trust Beckett's option. 

I don't trust any of them. The only thing that I ever sent to PSA was something that I got autographed myself in person, so I knew it was real, and they said that it wasn't. Only bothered with the service as i thought i may sell it down the road (which i rarely ever do). So I wasted money and now have zero trust for any of them. I'll stick with the educated guess that these Elton's are real unless i see some obvious terrible examples or signs of autopen.

I had the same thing happen with something I got in person and had pics of me with that person holding the item. So no way anyone could say it was fake... but they did. I had a few of the persons autograph and decided to sell that one... they ended up ruining the sale because they said it was fake. So I don't really trust them either... only problem is today most buyers think a PSA or Beckett sticker makes the item real, whether it is or not. 

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