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As most people were, I was a huge fan. At one of his shows backstage, I had him sign the inside gatefold of the album. A great photo on a record. But since I hate him now, I'm thinking of selling it on eBay. My wife said people won't want it, and I should wait until he dies. Your thoughts?

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Well put. Here is a reminder of some of the details on the result of the settled case: No charges filed after 18 months of investigation due to lack of evidence. Estranged dad who brought the suit killed himself a few years later. There is a great book called Conspiracy that centers on the second accuser and family and how they had a history of grifting and trying to take advantage of celebrity connections with George Lopez, Chris Tucker and of course MJ. End result of the 12 charges brought there: Innocent on all counts. Last words, and I quote MJ “just because you see it in the magazine or hear it on the tv screen dont make it actual - factual”Have an opinion, but dont ever speak for everyone because there is plenty of room for doubt. Innocent until proven guilty in USA.

That's a great point about jackson settling. I do think things would have come up like him letting the boy sleep in his bed, and probably they ran around naked in swimming pools or showers, even if he wasn't molested, and they thought "MJ...no jury is going to like that. Let's settle." So, you do bring up a very valid point. That being said...if you want to buy my Cosby album, PM me.

Kai, read this, from VANITY FAIR, and tell me what you think: 

1. There is no dispute that, at age 34, Michael Jackson slept more than 30 nights in a row in the same bed with 13-year-old Jordie Chandler at the boy’s house with Chandler’s mother present. He also slept in the same bed with Jordie Chandler at Chandler’s father’s house. The parents were divorced.

2. So far, five boys Michael Jackson shared beds with have accused him of abuse: Jordie Chandler, Jason Francia, Gavin Arvizo, Wade Robson, and Jimmy Safechuck. Jackson had the same nickname for Chandler and Arvizo: “Rubba.” He called Robson “Little One” and Safechuck “Applehead.”

3. Jackson paid $25 million to settle the Chandlers’ lawsuit, with $18 million going to Jordie, $2.5 million to each of the parents, and the rest to lawyers. Jackson said he paid that sum to avoid something “long and drawn out.” Francia also received $2.4 million from Jackson.

4. Michael Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo. Jordie Chandler drew a picture of the markings on the underside of Jackson’s penis. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jackson’s genitalia. The photographs matched Chandler’s drawings.

5. The hallway leading to Jackson’s bedroom was a serious security zone covered by video and wired for sound so that the steps of anyone approaching would make ding-dong sounds.

7. According to the Neverland staff interviewed by the Santa Barbara authorities, no one ever saw or knew of a woman spending the night with Michael Jackson, including his two spouses, Debbie Rowe or Lisa Marie Presley. Rowe, the mother of two of Jackson’s children, made it clear to the Santa Barbara authorities that she never had sex with Jackson.

8. The parents of boys Jackson shared beds with were courted assiduously and given myriad expensive gifts. Wade Robson’s mother testified in the 2005 trial that she funneled wages through Jackson’s company and was given a permanent resident visa. Jimmy Safechuck’s parents got a house. Jordie Chandler’s mother got a diamond bracelet.

9. Two of the fathers of those who have accused Jackson, Jordie Chandler and Wade Robson, committed suicide. Both were estranged from their sons at the time.

10. In a 2002 documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, Jackson told Martin Bashir there was nothing wrong with sharing his bed with boys.

Did you read the article Josh?

Obviously not.

A writer who wont read is a sad thing indeed.

So, no comment on the list of things Vanity Fair provided that aren't in dispute?

I dont see any proof of molestation here. Nicknames? Heresay. Suggestions, yes.

Proof? NOT A SHRED. 

There's a lot more too it. The boys that accused MJ of molestation originally, admitted they lied a while later.. after MJ died, they came back and tried to re claim they were molested, this time saying it was hundreds of times. Judge threw out both cases.. he didn't, then he did, then he didn't, then he did.. come on now! There is a lot we will never know. If we don't know FACTS we can only speculate. Latoya even lied about her own brother saying it was true but then later on saying she never saw any real proof of molestation, only checks from their mother which may or may not have been hush money.. I cant believe anything I hear anymore.. money is way too much of a factor.  Especially now that he's dead, unable to fight for himself. People could claim anything at this point. Ill admit, I read a lot of weird things about MJ.. he was a strange guy.. but a criminal? I can't say.. all I know is I won't stop listening to his music. I wont throw out records I have. 

Everybody knows The TV/tabloid version, Josh. Where is the hard, undisputable proof that Michael Jackson was a child molestor? THERE IS NONE. After “all those boys” and how many years and an 18 month investigation, they couldnt PROVE anything??!! How could that be? The Chandlers only ever wanted money (read the article)  - thats why they disappeared after the civil case and why the law was changed as a direct result. The Avrizo family are proven liars and grifters, but youd have to read a different book to get the full story there. And as we’ve seen, you only read what you agree with it seems. Its all in the article. Anybody really interested in what really happened should read it. PLENTY of room for doubt in this sad story.

Also, Safechuck had his most recent lawsuit tossed in California not all that long ago. This guy claims Michael gave him a wedding ring and wrote vows that he cant find - sure he did, buddy! And dont even get me started on Robson. You talk about shady - dig into these people making the accusations a bit and see what you find. I dont need to say anymore. You can believe what you want, but dont think for a second I wont defend MJ against these mean spirited attacks based on speculation and hearsay. 

I don’t know about MJ but Crosby he is evil, he drugged women until they were out cold then raped them, he’s got to be in to necrophilia.

I love how you guys that are supporting MJ, won't address these two things: the child pornography he had, with kids finger prints on it AND...30 days in a row of sleeping in a bed with a kid that's not his son. Those are facts. So, do you just chalk that up as "odd behavior"? Oh, and the kid that drew a picture of the marks on his penis, that matched up with the photos the cops took. How is that possible????

Never read anything in detail about MJ I was never in to his music just read the headlines from back in the day, but if that’s a true story then he was sick like Crosby.

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