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JSA is passing fake autographs by the hundreds for eBay seller dirty_water_ink

Study these autographs protect yourself!!

I came across these two sites while searching eBay. Not a single item is authentic, I am almost sure that this is the same forgery ring that circulated the mass amount of forgeries that GAI was passing 1-2 years back, you may be familiar with the eBay name dirty_water_ink, well I am no professional but I can say that I fell victim to a forgery sold by that seller and since then I dedicated some of my free time to study the forgeries they were producing to protect myself (even after they changed their user I.D. to hide) probably more than anyone I know, and I am 100% sure that this is dirty_water_ink, only this time JSA is passing the items!!!!!!! Shame on you JSA. I guess it is true what they say about the company being ran by children!

How can JSA be considered more credible than GAI if they are passing the same forgeries that GAI stopped passing?

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Permalink Reply by Rick Johnson on June 14, 2014 at 8:56am

Maybe they are not equal yet, but they are sure going down the same path GAI went down by passing this forgery-crew's bad autographs. I looked on eBay for a few hours last night, this problem is much larger than just the few sites highlighted in this blog. JSA in my opinion looks worse than GAI at this point when it comes to passing this crews stuff because JSA actually lettered the forgeries, really that whole JSA letter process is a fat money grab scam.

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on June 14, 2014 at 9:28am

No matter what JSA does though, they will never be worse than GA, isnt that right "Rick"

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on June 14, 2014 at 9:43am

"Rick," it is your right to voice your opinion on JSA, but JSA will never be what GAI (Steve Sipe, Mike Baker, etc) was and will never be what Global Authentics (Steve Sipe) is.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on June 14, 2014 at 2:14pm

100% correct Christopher. JSA and PSA certed items still allow the seller to command a premium price for the autograph. GAI and GA items, along with several other TPA's, actually devalue the autograph in many cases.

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Permalink Reply by Anthony Bautista on June 14, 2014 at 2:47pm

But then it comes down to you buying a sticker rather than the autograph . All tpa's companies have made mistakes. But there are items that have been $20,000-40,000 mistakes. Even with these smaller tier items. They re turning a maybe $40-60 non certed graph into a $300-500 graph.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on June 14, 2014 at 3:02pm

only because the market allows it. many of us on here do not pay attention to the stickers. I know I don't. but the majority of buyers do.

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Permalink Reply by Joe E on June 14, 2014 at 10:59am

Hes never going to answer or even mention GA in this thread.

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Permalink Reply by Rock G III on June 14, 2014 at 1:46pm

hahah ok sure. They will be as bad maybe if they do this for several years like GA / GAI.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Johnson on June 14, 2014 at 8:48pm

You can sit here and divert the blog to GAI but your avoiding the fact that JSA is working with the Florida/NYC forgery ring. Give it a few years you will change your opinion, JSA needs the money it will only get worse from here. A quick browse of eBay and aside from all the stigma around GAI, their items actually sale better than the JSA and PSA ones, I know that sounds weird and some of you wont be able to sleep knowing that, but its reality. JSA Johnny Manziel, JSA Jameis Winston, JSA Miguel Cabrera, JSA Tanaka etc. etc. etc... is not better than GAI Yasiel Puig. That is reality Joe E.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kaminski on June 14, 2014 at 9:22pm

I'd like to see a good comparison of GAI bringing a premium, I don't believe it.

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on June 14, 2014 at 9:52pm

No one believes it Mike. At this point, "Rick", is just trolling.

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Permalink Reply by Rock G III on June 15, 2014 at 6:59am

hahahahahahah Gai sale better?

Actually GAI / GA stickers on any item devalues it. And thats a fact. As for JSA needing money not sure how you would know that. But then again there is a 99% chance you are lying.