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Permalink Reply by Bernie on August 19, 2017 at 5:47pm

Someone I getting ready to shell big $$$$ for this with PSA and SGC LOA's

Any  suspicious flags

Other than B-a, possibly ("R"?)

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on August 19, 2017 at 8:15pm

The whole thing, really, but especially the "Ba" and "R". Not his handwriting. None of it, in my estimation. At least the best that can be said of the majority of Ruth forgeries is that they are usually typically indicative of male handwriting, as is always Ruth's. But this one I'd expect to be signed by Mrs. Ruth and I don't recognize this as specifically hers either. Occupying the top position on the page opens the possibility that the Ruth may be a later addition to the rest, one thing for sure, it's certainly not Babe's hand that wrote this. And later additions aren't all too rare. That infamous, Halper 500 home run sheet with the worst Ruth forgery of all time was a much later addition, the paper, ink, and placement tell the whole story, as if a horrendous Ruth forgery isn't enough alone to tell the tale. I'll see if I can find it. Once seen, it's never forgotten. 8O

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on August 19, 2017 at 8:25pm

Yikes!

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Permalink Reply by Bernie on August 19, 2017 at 8:34pm

Well, give them partial credit for not putting "714" below "Babe Ceeth", maybe a & 1 and then the W on Mays would double up as a 4    :-)

If the B a and the "R" are not his, fairly safe to say neither is the rest.

The Gehrig would not also become somewhat suspicious would you agree?

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on August 19, 2017 at 9:01pm

I didn't even see that! Didn't know Gehrig was there. I was floored by the Ruth and then moved on. Going to double back to peruse the Lou.

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Permalink Reply by Bernie on August 20, 2017 at 9:49am

Ends tonight, let me know what you see in the others.  I am estimating over $10 K, though not there now

BTW, pls take a peek at my prior posting on the Foxx and Berg. Thoughts? (Should I send to Beckett (Grad) or a waste of $$)

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on August 20, 2017 at 10:31am

Bernie, can you please post the link for the Ruth/Gehrig album that ends tonight? Can't find it.

And also your prior post on Foxx and Berg?

Thank you.

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Permalink Reply by Bernie on August 20, 2017 at 11:24am

Here is the HA auction with the Ruth Gehrig Foxx Wagner...

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/circa-1930-baseball-greats-autog...

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Permalink Reply by Bernie on August 20, 2017 at 11:25am

And here is my Foxx Berg and friends post

http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/foxx-and-berg

Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on August 20, 2017 at 12:49pm

The Gehrig is almost as odd as the Ruth, in fact, many of the signatures here trouble me, and my first impression on general overview is that many of the ones that stand out as troubling to me appear to be by the same one, possibly two writers. I see a lot of commonality here, strange as typically the signatures where I'm sensing a common author usually look unique when authentic.

The fact that so much of a % of the signatures here look like the same handwriting to me is the most troubling aspect, almost like an effeminized (open, airy, flourished) version of writing that is typically strong and masculine. Like the Ruth. What are the extra flourishes doing in there? The extra "tail" before the 'e' for starters? The exaggerated arc of the 't'-crossing, along with that extra back curl of the 'h'.

Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on August 20, 2017 at 12:54pm

Hornsby!!!! 8-O

Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on August 20, 2017 at 12:56pm

Bernie, were I the sole proprietor of an auction house, I would decline to accept this autograph album for auction. One red flag after another, and a lot of it common to one hand, in my estimation.

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