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REAL Elvis autographs

There has been a lot of confusion lately about Elvis Presley autographs due to a discussion that was recently posted. Elvis is one of the hardest autographs to authenticate as he had so many styles of signatures. After 20+ years of studying his autograph even I can get fooled every once and awhile. What messes up the forger is greed. The autograph gets too consistant for Elvis and they get caught. Recently a VERY good forger popped up and fooled me and others. The good thing is before the forgeries could be sold we figured out the forgeries and put a stop to this person. As you will see in this post "Elvis was consistantly inconsistant in the way he signed and wrote". There are though things he always did that show through though. All I am going to do here is post authentic signatures. I won't be explaining them in any way, that will be for you to do to educate yourselves. I will answer some questions though if needed. Enjoy!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 13, 2011 at 12:21pm

Kevin,

I understand your frustration and point, but Andreas admits to being a beginning Elvis collector, and Lewis isn't a new collector, but doesn't claim to have advanced Elvis authentication skills.

I think that what you may be seeing is their learning curves, and the effects of all the tension in this discussion over the misinformation and confusion the last week.

Why don't we all reboot, put the past behind us and give each other another chance? It may work or it may not, but it's worth a shot.

Thanks,

Steve

Permalink Reply by kevin conway on September 13, 2011 at 3:24pm

Steve,

I will send you the link to "Lewis" comments is the other forum and maybe you will underatand my over-reaction. And my "hypocrisy" assessment.

Permalink Reply by roger epperson on September 13, 2011 at 4:11pm

Now Lewis,

Why would you go and post something like that on some blog site. You yourself just stated we have our own opinions. No you didn't name name but you didn't have to. You made it clear enough for everyone to see. You don't know me and in fact you emailed me asking me to tell my collector friends about Elvis photo auction. Then you go and post some crazy thing like this somewhere else. Now why in the world would I help you out. I'm very sorry to say but with actions like that I have to agree with Kevin that you are two-faced. You can't have it both ways. I you honestly respect me then you would not post some crap like that on another blog. I have not had the time to study your photograph and just because of this I won't. If I found it bad you would bad mouth me again. I have no comment and will ask that it be removed from my thread. I wish you would have been more professional. It would be impossible for readers to take me as impartial on this item.

Permalink Reply by roger epperson on September 13, 2011 at 4:43pm

Lewis,

I don't need nor deserve this kind of BS and defiantly not on my honest thread. Your kind of hasty calls are not needed here, they fit perfectly on ANL. Please do not attempt to post anymore on my thread as I will delete them as this is a thread for authentic Elvis autographs not BS posts. Thanks Kevin!

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 12, 2011 at 8:40pm

Kevin, what's your Elvis Presley experience? And as a dealer, what do you do to be as sure as possible the Elvis autographs you deal in are real? Your answer probably applies to all the autographs you deal in.

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Permalink Reply by kevin conway on September 12, 2011 at 9:01pm

Steve,

I don't have the level of experience with Elvis as does Roger but I have self-authenticated many over the years. Heavily using Presley signature studies and collecting contracts, letters etc I've been able to pick up some unique idiosyncrasies in his handwriting. But, not at the innate level I have acquired for some others like Sinatra, Hepburn, Lugosi, Karloff, and some other vintage Hollywood where I know right away without having to reference anything.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 12, 2011 at 9:18pm

Thanks, Kevin...

You brought up an interesting comparison: It's past midnight where you are, so no rush to answer this, but can you explain the difference between carefully studying someone's autograph to help judge authenticity and knowing them on an innate level? Can you look at a significantly atypical Sinatra autograph and tell almost instantly if he likely signed it? Or how would you describe it?

I think collectors would really benefit by understanding how professionals handle authentication concerns—how they handle what they know well and what they don't.

And how long do you think it takes to become reasonably proficient in a classic autograph? How long until it becomes innate?

Ramble again. Your "ramblings" are much more valuable than you think.

Permalink Reply by kevin conway on September 12, 2011 at 9:24pm

Steve,

I forgot to add. I would not buy an Elvis without the appropriate cert or pre-cert as an added level of certainty beyond my own analysis.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 13, 2011 at 2:44am

I had to cancel Grant's membership. We're not going to put up with members on vendettas anymore.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 13, 2011 at 8:15am

Roger,

Your topic is genuine Elvis autographs but there are a number being uploaded that may not be genuine. How do you want to handle that? Do you want to be the only one uploading images into this discussion, or filter through member uploads and delete ones you don't want posted?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 13, 2011 at 8:53am

Lewis,

That's OK. This discussion is only for ones Roger believes are genuine and good examples. We want to make sure collectors and dealers don't use ones he hasn't approved. He'll go over them sometime today.

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Permalink Reply by roger epperson on September 13, 2011 at 4:01pm

Lewis

I'm sorry but in my opinion the Elvis photograph in the upper left hand corner is not authentic in my opinion. Looks the "D" in Danny, the "G" in Get and the whole signature. It just is all wrong. the one in the lower right seems to be OK, I'm curious though did the pen run out on the signature on the left and what does it say, if anything after "till"?