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Permalink Reply by Gary Harvey on August 16, 2012 at 2:34pm

Yeah but these are not real Steve

So I see from the Tuesday AFTAL statement of them being genuine in their opinion no refunds have to be given !

You have the word of other UK dealers that Dominic supplied them with Adrians Jacksons also ?

These dealers are happy that suspicion has been passed on these autographs ?

its a sad world    greed

Now its been revealed Dominic is on the Board ?

I knew there were reasons I never joined AFTAL when I was invited

Permalink Reply by Mick Taylor on August 16, 2012 at 11:55am

I think you will find that just about every dealer you have ever bought from buys stuff in and deems it authentic on trust. Usually trust earnt over a good number of years.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on August 16, 2012 at 1:17pm

I didn't know that until I registered on this website.  Just call me naive I guess.  Maybe I just assumed otherwise since it makes no sense.

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Permalink Reply by Mick Taylor on August 16, 2012 at 11:52am

My own personal opinion is that Garry's hands have been tied some what here with regards to what action they have decided to take as an organisation. I cant speak for him but I do think he would have handled it differently just down to himself

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Permalink Reply by Brandon Mysinger on August 16, 2012 at 1:11pm

I hope so, he is his own man and no organization worth it's salt would ask a member to do something that goes against what he knows is right.

What's funny is that everyone is rooting for Gary. However, the "board" very much put him in a bad spot. Until he proclaims otherwise, people will rightfully consider that he stands WITH the board and has deemed Adrian's MJ autographs as authentic.

Afterall that was then "official" statement.

I do still wonder if Gary or any AFTAL member presented testimony regarding MJ autographs while using Adrian's material as the example of record.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on August 16, 2012 at 1:20pm

Are you saying that he wouldn't have issued that AFTAL statement?

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Permalink Reply by roger epperson on August 16, 2012 at 1:34pm

The distributor of these MJ photos had a vote if they were real or not?  Really!

Just a little update, I talked to my friend here in Houston who had the 18 color 11x14 photos sent to him by Adrian about 6 months after MJ died; He told me Adrian was asking $250 each for the photos!!!!!  6 months later he still has 18 photos he just sent to the US for $250 each when if authentic would easily bring $1000.  If he had 18 left 6 months after he died how many did he have to begin with, 500?

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Permalink Reply by J.Seah on August 16, 2012 at 1:39pm

This discussion get more and more interesting everyday!! ;)

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Permalink Reply by Mick Taylor on August 16, 2012 at 1:35pm

I have no idea who posted the AFTAL statement. Im saying that from my experience Garry would have dealt with it differently if it was just down to himself

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on August 16, 2012 at 1:45pm

Unfortunately it will be very difficult to separate himself from AFTAL decisions at this point including the rumored pending attacks on Roger and Steve.  He must realize that.  None of this is any good for the hobby.  I hope that it can be resolved amicably.

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Permalink Reply by Mick Taylor on August 16, 2012 at 1:49pm

I would be absolutely amazed if any rumoured attacks were to happen!! Id love to know where they came from as I cant believe Garry would play any part in such action.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on August 16, 2012 at 1:59pm

Let's hope that you are correct.  Both sides have the same ultimate goal and that is to clean up the hobby for collectors like myself.

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