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Found this on the net, sorry if its been posted before:

http://www.edp24.co.uk/lifestyle/beatles_mania_set_to_take_over_bar...

These look to me like Aspinalls. Not sure about the Ringo. Quite funny reading this part though:

Mr Barnes said: “Many autographs purporting to be by the Beatles were actually signed by their road managers who were inundated with thousands of requests and perfected the signatures.

“The important thing in this case is we know they were signed by the guys themselves because they did so in front of Peter Wilde. It is also very unusual that all four signatures feature on a single sheet of paper.”

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Permalink Reply by Xperttexpert on July 29, 2013 at 7:45am

yup, all done by aspinall.

Permalink Reply by KarlKeaton on July 29, 2013 at 8:00am
Many people just assume that auction houses are authorities in all areas whereas this proves it isn't necessarily true. Many of them are also not above holding back on some of the facts and relying on would be buyers to fill in the gaps themselves.
Permalink Reply by Lewis Reynolds on July 29, 2013 at 8:08am

Also just relying on the sellers word. He said he got them in person so they must be genuine.

Permalink Reply by KarlKeaton on July 29, 2013 at 8:05am
Conversely watch this to see TV 'experts' give the thumbs down to a perfectly good set of Beatles autographs.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f9VLkFz8bZ0&feature=youtube_gdata_...
Permalink Reply by Lewis Reynolds on July 29, 2013 at 8:09am

Thats hilarious, interesting they had doubts with regards to the Tracks COA aswell. Wonder if Tracks just emails COAs to people, which would explain it being printed.

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on July 29, 2013 at 11:09am

Thanks for posting the link. That is indeed hilarious. I like the dramatic music after he claims that Paul Wane's signature is printed, which I doubt is the case.

Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on July 29, 2013 at 8:34am

Neil Aspinall strikes again. I've got tons of auction catalogs dating back to 1981-82 at the start of the rock'n'roll

auctions...and you'd be surprised how many sets of Neil's "autographs" graced the pages of the early catalogs. When a set of Neil's signatures were"outed" as it were...then with a little study...collector's could tell the difference between authentic sets..and Aspinall's.

Permalink Reply by Lewis Reynolds on July 29, 2013 at 8:35am

Wonder how many spent a small fortune on sets in the 80s, buying Aspinall ones.

I doubt they could get their money back now either.

Permalink Reply by KarlKeaton on July 29, 2013 at 8:37am
Yes, people ( including me) just weren't as aware back then.
Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on July 29, 2013 at 8:37am

Then...because of their rising value...Beatles autographs became some of the most forged on the market..along with Elvis and Babe Ruth

Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on July 29, 2013 at 8:43am

Neil...and sometimes Mal...signed on behalf of The Beatles because of the overwhelming demand for their autographs.They weren't out the gyp anyone..there was no market for the stuff like there is now...it was done to satisfy the demand. When the prices went up...the forgers came out of the woodwork...

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on July 29, 2013 at 10:53am

Yikes. I wonder what the outcome was.

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