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Permalink Reply by Anthony Clayton on July 6, 2014 at 9:48pm

I proved my point

1.) your opinion is trash

2.) you call real autographs fake and forgeries

3.) your immature to the point even when your proven wrong you make up excuses

LAME and IMMATURE

Permalink Reply by GraphingMlb on July 6, 2014 at 10:12pm

Maybe if you were so damn good you would not be here looking for an opinion Mr.Baker. Maybe your Google image is fake also..Jordan does IP graphs a lot different then his sit down UDA sigs also I can post some images for you if you would like to see them to compare.

Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on July 6, 2014 at 10:14pm

No Ryan,

You actually didnt make the point you intended. Instead you made yourself look silly. As an experienced sports collector than you surely know the amount of forgeries in the hobby. I am only somewhat familiar with MJ, only having every owned one, so i am sure you are much more versed on him than I. But even i know that one of the trends that has been popping up quite often over the last few years is fake/forged items with upper deck certs. They come complete with holograms and all, and only after the cert is verified and the autographs studied closely, can it be determined its fake. Often the first clue is an off looking signature. So members had every right to want to see the number and a close up of the autograph.

This kind of "testing" mentality on an autograph site, never turns out well for the tester. Your originial autograph was questioned, and may be real. I have had a David Bowie questioned on this site i got form autograph world, and was told it was fake by several members. I returned it, as i bought it out of trust of autograph world, and wasnt familiar with Bowie's signature. Well a few years down the line i started studying Bowie, and the signature autograph world sold me was 1000 percent genuine. A perfect example actually. So people here get it wrong all the time. it doesnt mean people dont want autographs to be real or there is something against the autograph posted. But the fact is, that most of the time, the majority of opinions on this site get it right.

But instead of just leaving things alone and sticking to your guns, you lied about some MJ jersey you supposedly had, and posted pics of someone else's ebay auction claiming it was yours. You should be very careful of that, as im sure you are entering grounds the seller would object too. And thats not to mention that you lied about it, in an attempt to "test" members of this site. And its very possible people here got it wrong.

But, you have proven by your comments that you came here with alterior motives from the get go. Any autograph collector on the net knows the collector sites available. And AML is the best, and there is no comparison, not even something remotely close to the level of collector experience. In fact, the other alternatives, save a slight few, are basically a joke when standing against this site. I have been members of several, both free and paid, and i can state that firmly. Which i would guess is why you came here, being an experienced collector.

Yet in your replies, you said that you knew this site had a bad rep and was just a place full of wanna be collectors who just liked to tell people there items were bad, and play dog pile. Yet, if that was true, why would you come here? it would have to be, to either try and make others look bad, or that you just didnt care who you sold the item too, considering the "reputation" you were aware of from this site. That, and when the item was questioned, you lied and made up some story about a jersey you had.

How can you expect anyone to say they got something wrong, and go into depth about why they thought the graph was legit or fake, when these are the tactics that were at play, before you ever created your thread on here? It doesnt add up, there was something else going on here.

Permalink Reply by Dom Vito Castiglione on July 6, 2014 at 10:49pm

That's exactly right. He seemed like a forger trying to get members here to tell him what was wrong with the gold Jordan signature....almost like he wanted the info to correct his forgery. As soon as I said the gold Jordan was a fake, he wanted to know in detail why. Then he took a google pic of the jersey from 15 feet away, and from that angle, it looks like the 'M" is off. From the wonderful picture ryan provided, it didn't look like Jordan completed the "m" as he does with 9/10 UDA items. From seeing that from afar and the information ryan provided about the COA it came with (Which was a lie), I said the jersey was no good. I have never seen an authentic Jordan from the COA ryan claimed it came with, so putting those 2 together it wasn't tough to say it was a fake. It's like taking a picture of 100% authentic PSA/DNA Mickey Mantle baseball from 15 feet away and asking the forum their opinions. Then telling them..."oh, by the way guys, the Mantle baseball comes with a COA from someone named Christopher Morales."

Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on July 19, 2014 at 12:38pm

Very well stated Carl.

Permalink Reply by Anthony Clayton on July 7, 2014 at 8:31am

I asked for reason why it's fake because it's easy to say fake or real I asked for a legit reason or explanation as to why back up your comment that's all

Permalink Reply by Rock G III on July 8, 2014 at 10:43am

Because it looks off. Now on to the question you missed. The gold Jordan, does it have a UDA holo ?

Permalink Reply by Rock G III on July 7, 2014 at 6:32am

So the original is uda ? Otherwise why are we talking about authentic ones? The one posted originally I wouldn't touch as it looks off. Good luck with that sale.

Permalink Reply by geraldzheng on July 16, 2014 at 7:22pm