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What is up with Substance Collectables - Milton Luban

Jason had started a thread; http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/what-is-exact-proof-...  

and like all good threads there are discussions witin discussions but this sub-discussion came up on a dealer Milton Lubin & http://www.substancecollectables.com/boxing_hall_of_fame___1

It appears that in 2003 although the Lubans were properly served but they failed to answer the complaint.

DECISION AND ORDER
MARRERO, District Judge.
By order dated July 22, 2003, the Court authorized entry of a default judgment in favor of plaintiffs Tiffany (NJ) Inc. and Tiffany and Company (collectively, "Tiffany") and against defendants Milton and Connie Luban and their company Luban Incorp. (collectively, the "Lubans"), the proprietors of an internet site selling counterfeit Tiffany merchandise in violation of the Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C. §§ 1114(1), 1116(d). Upon consideration of Tiffany's written and oral evidence as to its damages, the Court awards Tiffany a judgment in the amount of $573,818.64.

 

Jason went on further in one comment;

This link is the link with the guy and the actual photo we have on files one doctored that has the guy mentioned above.

http://bertorelli.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/rocky%c2%b4s-boxing-glov...

On 17 May 2012 the guys who were building a file heard the following news : He received a letter from the lawyers of Prince Marketing and Super Star Greetings today. Telling him to remove all items and images of Joe Frazier, Micky Ward, Roy Jones Jr, Hulk Hogan, Chuck Zito, Vinnie Paz and the Super Star Greetings logo. This guy is total scum and is getting what he deserves.

The most famous website in the world for tackling fakes did a special on him here you can read it for your selfs. click the link.

I wont pu the photos yet I will leave them as aces in our hands till we have too but I believe there is enough here to make your minds up if this is true or not.

http://www.isitreal.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=7...

 

Recently I received some photos that appear to have been photoshopped and were alleged to be used by Milton Lubin to promote his product offerings.  The one on the left is what has been alledged as the real one while the one on the right has been alledged as fake ones that were used as "proof" pictures.

One recent excerpt from Jason;

Ps yes DB strange here seems no one in America cares about what s going on in their door step and on of this forums own.    (sometimes Jason - it takes some extra cycles ;-)

Since I have no dogs in this fight and Milton Lubin is an AML member here as was pointed out in the intial thread above, it would be pertinent to have some feedback on these claims and allegations.

Tags: Milton-Lubin, Substance-Collectables

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 6, 2015 at 8:41am

We've changed policies on AML and I'm behind on enforcing them. When you make accusations about people or question their credibility we need to have your real name and confirm your identity. So stop comments until you're confirmed please.

You can keep your member name, just add your real name to your profile and then email me with your phone number, Facebook profile or other way to help identify you. That info will be kept private. You can also set your profile so it's only visible by other members, or is completely private (only AML personnel can see it).

I appreciate your understanding.

Thanks,

Steve

Permalink Reply by GuardDogg on February 17, 2015 at 10:24am
Where are you Milton? Are you whimpping out on answering all the accusations brought forward by members about your business practices of selling fakes and getting kicked off eBay numerous times and the list goes on? As a business man one would think you would answer the questions asked of you in this forum. Be a man and address questions otherwise you appear really guilty as the owner of Substance Collectibles.

This forum will never go away and we will continue to follow your, what I refer to as, unethical business practices.
Permalink Reply by Carlos on March 16, 2015 at 8:03pm
Was just browsing the net and came upon this pic of Milton luban with Ali....allegedly
What do you guys think?
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Permalink Reply by Carlos on March 16, 2015 at 8:04pm
Apparently he was a guest at the "Muhammad Ali Humanitarian Awards"....lol
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Permalink Reply by Carlos on March 16, 2015 at 8:10pm
So there is a page on Milton's site that apparently had pictures of him with Ali and the humanitarian gala, on the red carpet for an Ali film premier and with Laila at the airport . None of the pictures load anymore lol. Wonder why!!!

http://substancecollectables.com/humanitarian_awards_dinner
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Permalink Reply by GuardDogg on March 16, 2015 at 8:26pm
Good to see more "fraud" from Milton. Thank you Carlos for your posting. I have been communicating with a senator about Milton and what he has been doing. Milton is basically operating at a much much higher level of fraud than you find on the Internet that no one can do anything about.....but......Milton is going to get his rear end in a bed of nails. Matter of fact I received an email from the senator today and this will be a great "btw follow up" email in a few minutes. Something I have been working on for a while now and now I expect to see men in suits knocking at his door in the near future. I am pushing on this to move along as hard as I can. It's a mission I am on.
Permalink Reply by GuardDogg on April 12, 2015 at 10:50am
I have been communicating with the senator in my state that is not tolerating sellers on the Internet that are and have sold fake/fraudulent autographed memorabilia. I have been supplying him with gathered information on Milton with a mission to shut him down. The senator has been very receptive to the undisputed proof I have provided. It has taken several weeks of communication with the senator that is personally out to rid the Internet of people like Milton. As he mentioned there is endless situations like this but my only concern is to pounce on Milton and his business practices. I will not end my communication with the senator until the hammer comes down on Milton and I am a very persistent little bast***. It's very satisfying to know Milton is blinking on the senators map. I will post updates as they become available as to the progress of this mission.
Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on April 12, 2015 at 1:16pm
Good. Thanks for doing that.
Permalink Reply by AC on April 27, 2015 at 11:27pm
Scans 1 and 2
 
Ebay seller clint-steiner listed auction 181717365353, Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao signed and framed boxing gloves.  They were from
the stock of the senior authenticator, holograms from  SSAuthenticators.com. and accordingly it was removed on April 15, 2015.
 
Scans 3 and 4
 
Ebay seller universal-autographs listed  111649360952  , Mayweather Pacquiao glove combo, from the stock of the senior authenticator, holograms are
SSAuthenticators,com , and accordingly it was removed April 19,  2015.
Permalink Reply by AC on April 27, 2015 at 11:31pm
Scans 1 - 6
 
bocameline listed 351372619116, Ali-Frazier-Holmes glove , certs PSA G10098, OA-8084532, and Substance Collectables
D819637. The registry bases for PSA and On Line shows only a Joe Frazier signed glove,  The Ali and
Holmes autographs are fake, added  later, and certed by Substance Collectables. On Line certed  the glove October, 2005 it was just a
Frazier glove.
 
Scans  7 - 9
 
eagleskeith bought it and  listed on 311344158632, proferring it was Ali glove only didn't show the other autographs. It had
the same PSA hologram, G10098, which was for Frazier glove. Seller ended it April 22, as Not Available. He told me not to bid on it, it was being tested,
and he must have found out if was no good.
 
Scans 10- 13
 
bocameline also listed 141637857905 Ali Frazier glove, with  certs PSA G10100 and OA-8082931, but the registry bases show only
Joe Frazier signed glove. The Ali autograph is fake and added later, certed  by third hologram  Substance Collectables,, D819643.
On Line certed  the glove October, 2005 it was just a Frazier glove.
 
 
 
 The  eagleskeith   one was removed April 24, 2015
Permalink Reply by Carlos on April 28, 2015 at 1:00pm
eBay seller eagleskeith has just listed this one
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=331541...

AC - If you could post these pics too that would be great
Permalink Reply by AC on April 27, 2015 at 11:32pm
Scan 1
 
seller rushil1140 from United Kingdom listed Floyd Mayweather Manny Pacquiao signed glove combo on auction 231544097973 . The
Pacquiao glove came directly from the Pacquiao camp, however the Mayweather glove was from the stock of the senior authenticator,
 it was from SSAuthenticators.com, and accordingly it was removed April  27, 2015.
 
Scan 2
 
PSA Mayweather on the left:,  SSAuthenticators on the right.

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