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Permalink Reply by Samuel John Clifford on February 5, 2017 at 10:39pm

The "Top" one absolutely not. The second one I don't know.

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Permalink Reply by Richard Booth on February 5, 2017 at 10:46pm

Both of these are not real, sorry.

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Permalink Reply by Alan Robinson on February 6, 2017 at 12:22pm

Hi Clay - I'd say not real. Here are a couple of real ones for comparison.

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Permalink Reply by Clay on February 6, 2017 at 2:00pm

Thanks so much!

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