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Allman Brothers Album - opinions please

Hi there - I have some authentic Almman signatures that I´ve obtained in Person but not any of my self-obtained signatures comes close to these. To be honest - I don´t know what to think of that one. Very small signatures and some of these are fading....

History of the signatures unknown. I´ve brought that Album just as an Vinyl lp at a record fair some years ago. Seller did not mentioned that it was signed. I´ve got it for just some Euros and at home I figured out that it was signed - could these be authentic signatures?

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on March 22, 2013 at 10:42am

I cant be too sure on this one Martin, b/c the signatures are faded a little. And also im not sure what their older signatures looked like, but i can say that the Allman and Dickey Betts signatures dont resemble their current signatures.

But im sure youll get some more opinions on them by someone who knows their past signature styles.

Hope it turns out good

Carl

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Permalink Reply by Devon Laney on March 22, 2013 at 11:17am

Hi Martin, I don't believe any of these are authentic. They don't match any of my in-person examples. They also do not match any older authentic signatures I have seen. It's possible these are genuine, but they all look signed by the same hand. I would say 99% not authentic. Sorry!

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Permalink Reply by Martin on April 10, 2013 at 10:53am

Hi again - lets have a Little study on Dickey Betts signatures! I´ve figured out that his signature changed during the years. I have authenic items want to share/show to you:

heres one I cannot add a date to - sadly - but as he added ABB It makes me thinking ist signed in the 80s

2 signatures from July 2012 - signed in Isernhagen after a concert - all on Vinyl Albums

signature from July 2008 - signed in Munich, collected by myself - it was signed after the Show as Dickey just wanted to jump into the car - he saw the Album and crashed his signture to it....

heres a CD-box set "Dreams" signed dy Dickey in 1989 - it was a Radio competition from Powercuts.

very small signature from Dickey.....

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Permalink Reply by Devon Laney on April 10, 2013 at 7:52pm

Hi Martin,

I don't believe the first signature shown above is authentic (Dick Betts). The others are all 100% authentic, nice signatures. I have seen Dickey's authentc signature from the 70's through tody, and I have never seen a signature like this. In fact, before he started signing as Dickey, he used to sign as Richard Betts. Another give away that it's a fake: whoever signed it put "AAB" after the signature. It should be "ABB". I think Dickey would know the initials of the band he was in! All the other examples are great versions of his more recent signature, with a few of them showing his now-more-common "D Betts" signature. The first one shown (Dick Betts AAB) is not authentic in my opinion.

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Permalink Reply by Sidney Fields on April 11, 2013 at 1:46am

Devon is right about the AAB and the fact that he used to be "Richard.

His 1974 solo record, "Highway Call", has a big photo of him on the front with his name "Richard Betts".

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Permalink Reply by Martin on April 14, 2013 at 10:04am

thanks Devon! LoL - AAB!!! Never thought about that! You are right - this is a fake! WOW!

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Permalink Reply by Devon Laney on April 14, 2013 at 10:10am

No worries, Martin! That's why this is a great hobby :) Always full of surprises.

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Permalink Reply by Sidney Fields on April 14, 2013 at 11:28am

Of course that may not be dispositive.

Dickie never was a great speller.....

: )

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Permalink Reply by Martin on April 14, 2013 at 12:08pm

you should see the full Album - there are various signatures on that Album.... - curious - I don´t think it has been signed by "one Hand"....

maybe Roger could check that one, too.... do you think its woth some $ to get it checked by Roger?

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Permalink Reply by Devon Laney on April 14, 2013 at 8:11pm

None of these signatures are authentic, but they don't look like they were signed by the same hand. However, the people that forged these signatures ruined a great album cover! LOL :)