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Are these Babe Ruth, Gehrig, Presidential, Monroe, etc...autographs real?

I was looking through some older autograph offerings from a known dealer and I saw a few autographs listed from stars and celebs that have been talked about here. So, It made me wonder, are these items that were sold in the past real?

Here are the scans.

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Permalink Reply by Brandon Mysinger on December 10, 2011 at 10:20am

This is the same crap Coach's Corner pulls. Its clear deception and keeps un-educated buyers from focusing on the signature being offered.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on December 10, 2011 at 10:37am

I don't like either one of the Ruth or Gehrig signatures. The L in Lou is way off, as is the flow of the signature (admittedly the scan sucks, and its difficult to really see the detail) and the G formation is not correct. the spacing is off. I just don't think these are real. The Ruth is close but I think its off. this is a typical Gehrig, from the same era. He was consistant and you will see almost all of his real signatures have this flow and letter formation.

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Permalink Reply by john reznikoff on December 13, 2011 at 8:43am

Terrier,

Nice Gehrig ball!

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on December 14, 2011 at 5:12am

Thanks, John! its a barnstorming ball from 1929, and it also has Ruth, Hack Wilson, Hornsby, Hartnett, and a bunch of other non-HOF. Heavily shellacked but beautiful in its ugliness!

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Permalink Reply by john reznikoff on December 14, 2011 at 7:28am

Love it's beautiful ugliness. Many times this is a strong indication of authenticity. Gehrig is way undervalued in my opinion. Id guess he signed about 1/50th as much as Ruth. Whats your feeling?

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on December 14, 2011 at 9:01am

You could be right. How many single signed Gehrig balls have you seen? I think one of the issues with Gehrig is even though he was a tremendous player, I believe he was greatly overshadowed by Ruth, and thus not in as high demand for his signature.

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Permalink Reply by john reznikoff on December 14, 2011 at 10:02am

I keep drooling over this photo http://www.lelands.com/Auction/AuctionDetail/68620/December-2011-Ca... at lelands. I dont know how to post the photo so I put a link. Has there ever been another like this?