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Guys (particularly JXE) could use some opinions. 

I am  usually very good at telling whether Arnold autographs are real or not - but these ones really had me stymied.....everything and all the little traits point towards genuine but there's this feeling that something looks a little off for some reason. If they are fake, they are the best fake Schwarzenegger autograph I've ever seen. 

Thoughts?

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I think I would really have to have one in hand to see it in person. These almost appear photoshopped or altered images with graphs added digitally.

 

No - I have them at hand and it's not a stamp, not preprint and not autopen. 

 in my opinion they don't look right like the gg's etc and because of that and other things with them I would pass. If you have them in hand did you buy all of them? I have added some of mine some are the fuller signature to make an comparison ,

Thanks - I have multiple Arnie autographs. 5 I got in person, 5 I got from his Omaze campaigns, 2 from Celebrity Authentics and 1 from his Total Recall book. He does sometimes sign "gg" the way above. 

See example:

Hello Tam, I agree that these examples have many authentic traits. I decided to take a look at the 3rd one down. The ink seems Uniform and flat throughout-i think most of these look that way. A possible break at the top of the first "r" or is it a short extender? the descending "d",the way the "w" connects to the "a" and just a neater feel to it. These are just a few areas I feel may be atypical. What do you see Tam?
Tam, I would like to add something to my previous comments on the 3rd Arnold down. Does the signature look rather long & stretched out?

When Arnie is signing his full name in a sit-down, non-rushed scenario (like when he is signing the special editions of Total Recall books, the Omaze rewards etc) the signature does look a bit long and stretched (reflecting that he is not rushed and has his time) 

His Governor autopens (the one in the blue background with him facing the camera at an angle) as well as preprints he sends out from his office both look that way.

The way the "d"s end in each of the samples is really the only questionable part.

All other traits (the slantedness of the Schwarzenegger name, the way the top of the "S" extends and loops, the way the end of the "S" connects with "c", "ch" being parallel, the "w" being a stronger alphabet within the "Schwarzenegger" etc) which is why I'm very confused.

Like I said, there is only very very subtle hints that MIGHT bring questions but by no means outright fake (unlike all the other fakes out there which in no way resembles the signature, or only faintly resembles it. The samples I have here must be the best ones I've seen. 

The two scenarios are:

  1. either these are real (and Arnie does change his style slightly as time goes by. Compare and contrast his early 90s full name with the 2016/7 full names you will see); or
  2. this is the BEST fake signatures I've ever seen. If this was forged, the forger has spent a significant amount of time and resources to analyse and study Arnie's signature, and surely spent a lot of time practicing before signing (which I think is even more unlikely given the amount of time needed to achieve this quality of fake compared to what a genuine Arnie's signature would sell for)

I tend to think #2 is very very unlikely...

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