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Permalink Reply by Trond Johansen on March 17, 2013 at 6:01am

Hi Bruuuce, thats a brilliant idea !  I don`t know about any such sites, maybe somebody else does? If not, there should be enough resources in this forum to set up something like that.  I actually asked in another thread a couple of months ago about this, and if anybody had made an article about Bruce-signatures like the ones Roger has on McCartney. Would participate in any way possible if this could be done!  A Bruce-autograpg database would be fantastic! 

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Permalink Reply by Trond Johansen on March 21, 2013 at 4:20pm

Anybody else know any sites with a collection of pictures of real Bruce Springsteen signatures from different periods? Or a database more like the one Bruuuce mentioned in his post. Maybe similar to the U2 East-site?

Permalink Reply by Bruuuce ! on March 16, 2013 at 1:58pm

That could be real.... But not worth the price anyway...

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Permalink Reply by Trond Johansen on March 16, 2013 at 2:02pm

You are referring to the Thrill Hill contract? I know he sold it, but haven`t heard what he got for it yet. I know, the price at Ebay (if you saw it there), was too high... If real, maybe half that price.

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on March 17, 2013 at 2:00am

Unfortunately, early Bruce autographs are also the most easily forged in my opinion. As has been shown in the great examples posted here, Bruce's autograph from that time are basically block letters. And in my eye, these seem like they could be forged far more easily that Bruce's 2000 and up signatures. They are quicker and more fluid, and most forgers cant get it right without going quite slow, which is normally pretty evident.

Signatures from the era that is causing the debate just seem like they could be forged so easily. I could be wrong, but just looking at the picture that started this discussion, and comparing it to a current full Bruce signature, i think i would have a much better chance of forging the older style vs the newer style. Signatures from this era (authentic ones as well) also look strange in my eye (almost shaky and uncertain). These would be very hard to authenticate in my opinion. The price on that item though was absolutely absurd in my opinion though. I mean it wasnt even ballpark. If he paid over 5 grand for it, then he got taken for thousands and thousands of dollars. Maybe to a Bruce collector someone would pay thousands for such an item, but personally i am surprised if it even fetched a grand.

And then you have to add in where the autograph is coming from, and the strange replies that the OP was getting when he asked about the shipping of the piece. And i have heard what Roger stated here over at startiger before as well. That anything coming from them needs to be looked at hard. The insinuation was that they were above average fakes. I have never bought from them, nor have i studied their inventory, so i cant speak from personal experience. But judging by what i have heard and examples posted, i would stay away.

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Permalink Reply by Bruuuce ! on March 17, 2013 at 2:15am

You are right and the early signatures are not even "nice"! A signature from the early days is probably interesting for a historical point of view but i would rather spend my money on an official document coming from a very reliable source than on an autograph done on a record. Having said that, Bruce is still very happy to sign just about everything you throw at him (unless it's a guitar or drum head !) And he is pretty easy to get (with a little bit of patience and luck). So, now, his signature shouldn't reach 5 grand.... But i really like the letter he wrote to his landlord ! Would look nice on my wall !

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Permalink Reply by Trond Johansen on March 17, 2013 at 4:48am

I agree Carl and Bruuuce, the early ones are much more tricky to determine. They actually must be a forgers dream, so much easier to forge, and commanding a significant higher price than the newer ones. I am almost surprised that there aren`t much more of them out there.. 

I would keep away from the Greetings on the top here for several reasons. Of course the price are hilarious, and the seller have in all cases been ripped of if he really has payed more than $5000 for it. I wouldn`t buy a piece with so much uncertainty attached to it either, I like to be overwhelmingly sure its genuine before I obtain anything, especially on the higher price-range. Of course, the only ones you can be personally 100% secure of are the ones obtained in person, but I like to be at least 90-95% sure before buying. I have read about the bad reputation Walls Of Fame has gotten the last years, but I have also heard a lot of nice things about Billy in earlier days, connected to Asbury Park Rock 'N Roll Museum. 

If this piece was real, I wouldn`t pay more than $1500 -2000 for it. And for that, I would have had to be a lot more sure it was genuine than I am right now, after this discussion. I am thinking about sending the seller some more questions, anybody have some suggestions on what to ask? 

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Permalink Reply by Trond Johansen on March 25, 2013 at 4:00am

It went on for 10 days, and no bidders, and he has re-listed it for another 10 days. I contacted him and said that nobody will bid $5000 for it in any case. He replied that then he will keep it for himself. Maybe that`s the best, considering the very split opinions here...

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