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Counterfeit PSA, JSA, & GAI Items Being sold on eBay.

Three blogs have been started in the past two months regarding a "group" who is counterfeiting PSA, JSA, and GAI COA's and Holograms and selling the knock-off items on eBay. I have decided to start a forum regarding this issue to help organize the information. Listed below are links to the previous blogs that were started on this group. I have listed them in chronological order, update yourself on this issue and join the fight against this group. Please post any new info or questions.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/profiles/blogs/counterfit-psa-dna...

http://live.autographmagazine.com/profiles/blogs/counterfeit-psa-dn...

http://live.autographmagazine.com/profiles/blogs/beware-fake-jsa-co...

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Permalink Reply by DB on October 10, 2012 at 6:03am

thanks Anthony... good to see an example of one that aligns with their statement.

PSA/DNA would like to introduce our new certificates of authenticity (COA) which feature holographic technology to better combat counterfeiting. The same technology that was added to the PSA/DNA Letter of Authenticity is now embedded in our COAs, adding another level of security. The detailed color-shifting hologram is now utilized on all four COAs: the Standard PSA/DNA certificate, the signed In-the-Presence certificate (for autographs witnessed by PSA representatives) as well as our RookieBall™ and RookieGraph™ COAs.

These things are getting close to passports.

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Permalink Reply by Peter leone on October 10, 2012 at 8:06am

The "invisible marker" is NOT applied to the sticker itself, it is actually applied to the item. If you have a baseball, Jersey, Football, Mini etc it will be applied to the actual item usually above the hologram. If you have a photo it is applied to the back side of the photo. There in NO way to see this making with the naked eye, you will actually need to use a special calibrated laser light to see this marking.

It has been said that this marking has affected the leather on Baseballs and footballs so I believe now they apply the mark on the air intake of the football (the little black rubber) and on the laces above the sticker on baseballs. Also it's been said that they just don't mark the leather items anymore because of this but to really know for sure we would need a statement from PSA which they will not confirm I am sure.

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Permalink Reply by DB on October 10, 2012 at 8:57am

Updating the earlier response since just got off the phone with a PSA Service Rep. She indicates, as far as she has been aware, that they have not put the dab on the sticker itself confirming what you say. I don't know where Mike Aring rec'd his information or how old it might have been.

However, there are items that are certified that don't have the dab applied. Those items seem to be the framed items where the owner chooses to not have the dab applied as the item would have to be disassembled. Of course, that leads to other questions for another time.

with regards to the Basketball, they don't know whether a dab was or wasn't applied since the sticker was permanently affixed to the LOA (issued from the HO) and not issued at the show. The only way I would find out is to bring to another show where they have their detection light.

If they did, it would have been good to know that they did this but the rep clearly admitted it might be or might not be depending upon what type of authentication was actually performed at the show.

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Permalink Reply by James McKnight on November 21, 2012 at 1:08am

Hey everyone, the group responsible for counterfeiting JSA, PSA, and GAI COA's is back and just in time for the Holidays. They have just created 15 new accounts and have live auctions running right now on eBay, one look at these accounts and it is obvious it's the same group. Please help get these auctions removed ASAP! The links for their new accounts are:

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Permalink Reply by DB on November 21, 2012 at 2:22am

Most are gone for the moment for a number of posting violations. Let's see if they run and hide as the earlier one's did or repost

just an aside, and only in this checked instance, this item sold by bayoubyyou did validate to the GAI Cert.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Viola on November 21, 2012 at 8:15am

I have a PSA sticker which I found in my collection, but I have no idea what item it is for. I contacted PSA by email but they dont seem to have it in their database. it is from 2008, and now I feel it could be one of these bogus ones. Here it is

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Permalink Reply by DB on November 21, 2012 at 11:11am

wanna sell it, lol! Not necessarily as It's insane but PSA/DNA doesn't have all of their items properly recorded in their database. I never did get a straight answer sometime back as to why. Somewhere you have a PSA/DNA sticker on an item.

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Permalink Reply by James McKnight on November 21, 2012 at 9:19am

@ DB, that is great news!!! I just found their 16th new site.

Here is the link to the eBay ----> 0rangecru5h , it has 4 auctions running as we speak.

It is blowing my mind how they can have so many accounts!?!

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Permalink Reply by James McKnight on November 21, 2012 at 6:20pm

the 16 new accounts have been halted for the time being thanks DB! Just found #17 which they are using to list some of the items which were just removed, seems they haven't changed their m.o. Link to #17 ---->redzsports. They have 8 auctions running live right now, the most listed one one account at any one time that I've seen. Interesting this group likes starting all of their live auctions at $0.01.

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Permalink Reply by James McKnight on November 21, 2012 at 6:23pm

I take that 0.01 comment back, I just found #18 which they are also using to sell some of the items which were removed today. Link to #18 ----> 909power .

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Permalink Reply by DB on November 23, 2012 at 5:30am

like fruit flies James. Both gone until the acts are cleaned up. Sorry 'bout the delay but have been preoccupied with threats. Needless to say, the ones i worry about are from those that were at dinner yesterday & are here thru the wkend. They do know where my ballpeen hammer is!